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Old 02-25-06, 06:57   #13 (permalink)
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Old 02-28-06, 06:10   #14 (permalink)
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I went to the cleveland autoshow last weekend and all the cars looked like ****. The dealer I work at didnt send any cars though. Those cars get beat on at the shows, people touching every single part on them. We sold an explorer last year that was in the autoshow, and when we picked it up from the other dealer, knobs were missing, handles were broken, leather looked like it had 50k miles on it. They should just throw all the cars that hev been in an autoshow into a fire somewhere
 
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Old 02-28-06, 07:38   #15 (permalink)
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Most people will not even notice the paint damage. Their eyes and brains are not focused on these things like we are.

Lucky them.
yeah exactly.. whenever i mention swirls most people just look at me like 'whatt '
 
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Old 03-01-06, 07:11   #16 (permalink)
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Pontiacs in general are pretty horrible. No offense to those who own them, but they have put some absolute trash on the roads. And yes, I have owned one.
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Old 03-01-06, 07:26   #17 (permalink)
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Pontiacs in general are pretty horrible. No offense to those who own them, but they have put some absolute trash on the roads. And yes, I have owned one.

no offense man, but I'd much rather drive a Solstice than a CR-V
 
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Old 03-02-06, 04:24   #18 (permalink)
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Pontiacs in general are pretty horrible. No offense to those who own them, but they have put some absolute trash on the roads. And yes, I have owned one.

Maybe it would have been better to say "Pontiacs in general HAVE BEEN pretty horrible". It seems to me that GM products in general have turned the corner in quality and styling, and even Pontiacs are seeing that improvement (I agree that Pontiacs in particular have been pretty sorry until recently).

But I don't think the swirls in the paint of that Solstice have anything to do with that; they were caused by its handlers and/or the crowds.
 
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Old 03-02-06, 05:26   #19 (permalink)
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My girlfriend bought a '00 Sunfire in '02 with 30,000 miles on it. Other than regular maintenance (full brake job, full tune-up, and water pump) plus a $15 resistor for the hva/c. and a $30 harness near the fuel tank, the car still runs tip-top with 110,000 miles on it today. Granted I hate the looks of it and it handles like crap (I added a front sway bar because I was tired of getting sea sick around corners) it has been A-1 for her.

As with any brand, your results may vary. I think if you buy nothing but one brand your entire life you will encounter a problem vehicle at some point.
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Old 03-02-06, 03:55   #20 (permalink)
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no offense man, but I'd much rather drive a Solstice than a CR-V
Well, my wife drives it and I have two kids so a Solstice or such isn't even a consideration for us obviously. I would buy a Miata over the Solstice if I were in that market.
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Old 03-02-06, 04:26   #21 (permalink)
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I would buy a Miata over the Solstice if I were in that market.
Me too....
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My girlfriend bought a '00 Sunfire in '02 with 30,000 miles on it. Other than regular maintenance (full brake job, full tune-up, and water pump) plus a $15 resistor for the hva/c. and a $30 harness near the fuel tank, the car still runs tip-top with 110,000 miles on it today. Granted I hate the looks of it and it handles like crap (I added a front sway bar because I was tired of getting sea sick around corners) it has been A-1 for her.

As with any brand, your results may vary. I think if you buy nothing but one brand your entire life you will encounter a problem vehicle at some point.
I hear the Americans talk about a tune up a lot, what is a tune up.

Over in the U.K. we just have servicing, changing oil, spark plugs etc. Mot which is to make sure your car is safe and up to the DVLA standards.
 
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A tune-up just refers to periodic maintenance like changing plugs, filters, belts, etc...
If you go to a shop and get a 50,000 mile tune-up, you'd get stuff like new plugs (maybe not if you have platinums), tire rotation, new serpentine belt or V-belts, fluids checked/changed/topped off, and a new fuel filter.
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Ahh so a tune up is our "service" cool!
 
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