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Old 12-19-05, 01:22   #13 (permalink)
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I'm hesitant to post this reply because I don't want to aggravate someone seeking to be helpful. And I can certainly understand the feeling of being jilted when your kind deed is not rewarded with words of appreciation.

However, I don't think you should sarcastically say "Your Welcome". Honestly, this seems rude to me.

Your deed is honorable, your reward is the knowledge that you took time to try to make someone else's day a little easier. It's a bonus if you get more.

Having said this, I try to make a point to always say "Thank You"
 
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Old 12-19-05, 01:36   #14 (permalink)
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I hate that too! It seems that most of the people who dont say thanks to me are older women. I guess cause I'm a kid, I dont know. Pisses me off though and I do the same as you Sean, I say "Your welcome!" and they usually look at me like they are mad that I said that. lol Even a simple nod or smile would be nice, I understand some people might not like to talk a lot.
 
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Old 12-19-05, 02:17   #15 (permalink)
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totally agreed!! I cant stand when people dont appreciate those random acts of kindness! aslo I come from a small town and I always say hi to poeple I pass, well i hate it when i say hello and someone just ignores me or mumbles it.


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Old 12-19-05, 02:41   #16 (permalink)
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... I don't think you should sarcastically say "Your Welcome". Honestly, this seems rude to me.

Your deed is honorable, your reward is the knowledge that you took time to try to make someone else's day a little easier. It's a bonus if you get more.

Having said this, I try to make a point to always say "Thank You"
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... I do this for all the reasons that you mentioned but... foremost, I do this because it is right. Once I got this thru my head it was easier to let the ungrateful go on about their business without comment.
Yeah, what they said

I do what I do because of *my* values, if others don't reciprocate I just shrug it off- they're not me and I'm not them. I don't want to feel like I'm obligating people to do something (like say "thanks"), I'm just being polite and maybe helping somebody out. So if saying "thanks" is too much for them, well, that's their problem. I'm not gonna go from polite (holding the door) to rude (saying something snarky) just because they don't know enough to acknowledge my good deed.

Oh, and one thing to consider with older women- these days many people like that are pretty paranoid about their personal safety, and for good reason. Acknowledging something related to a young person might make them nervous. A lot of bad guys get their foot in the door by being nice. Not a excuse for rudeness, just a thought...

I *will* say that I get irritated by all the "no problem!" responses. This phrase seems to have replaced thank you/you're welcome in many circles. Guess that's *my* pet peeve at present.
 
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Old 12-19-05, 02:54   #17 (permalink)
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I'm a firm believer that a little kindness and respect goes a long way, so maybe even if the person you held the door open for doesn't say thank you, they might just hold it open for someone else tomorrow morning. Then again maybe I am niave.
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Old 12-19-05, 03:08   #18 (permalink)
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One of my pet peeves too, Sean. Guess that is what happens when MTV and Madonna are raising today's kids. Sad thing is, I see the same thing with adults.
Guess what? Madonna, in an interview, says she doesn't let her kids watch TV because there's too much trash out there. Well, duh! No thanks to her!

I learned how to say "I'm sorry", "Please", and "Thank you" early on thanks to my mom!

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Old 12-19-05, 03:12   #19 (permalink)
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Picus- That's a good way to look at it.

I remember back in the early '80s when somebody complimented me on the (big, aggressive) dog I was handling. Handling for the first time in an very crowded, unfamiliar area. I was feeling self-concious and nervous about working that dog in that situation and I didn't acknowledge the compliment. The guy then said something about me being a stuck-up jerk and I still remember it over 25 years later. Yeah, I learned a lesson, two actually: 1) I should've said "thank you"; I resolved to be better about that, and 2) the guy was a jerk. His compliment seemed all about *him*, if he really wanted to say something nice about the dog, well, he *did* say it and I appreciated it even if I didn't say anything. Why put me on the spot and then complain when I failed to perform the way he wanted? He didn't realize that I really had my hands full. That "nice dog" might've torn into him had I not been taking care of business properly.
 
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Old 12-19-05, 03:20   #20 (permalink)
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I hold doors open, but I don't really expect a thank you.

I mean, if my holding a door open is making somebody's day then that's really sad.


"Oh you know, Hurk, this 20 year old boy held a door open for me today!"
"Oh really, Susie, that's just swell!"
 
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Old 12-19-05, 03:29   #22 (permalink)
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A truly on-going pet peeve of mine, the simple gesture of "thank you" at the appropriate time is absent from many people's vocabulary.


Specifically, when I hold a door for someone. Ok, if its a very busy place and there are constant people in and out, the door is always being held regardless. However, I make it a point to hold a door extra long, a few seconds, if I see older folks or a female walking towards the door. Now, I do this out of pure respect and helpfulness. With the older folks, simply because many are notably weaker and for the females, out of old-fashioned habits. For instance, I get the car door for my girlfriend whenever we go out.


Anyways, this gesture of mine goes unnoticed by many; almost like the "deserve" it. Many times I will hold a door for someone with pretty much nobody else around and it will be just silence. 9 times out of 10, I will respond with a firm, "Your welcome", and let the door go.


Am I overreacting or should I start accepting that some people either don't care or just simply don't have manners?
I hate that common courtesy is a dying thing. My kids will definitely be taught the "sir" or "ma'am" that I was brought up with. I do a lot of similar things, and I too am taken aback when people are just rude or inconsiderate of others for no reason. People these days feel entitled to yell at someone just because they got pickles on their burger and didn't want them. It's sad.
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Old 12-19-05, 03:45   #23 (permalink)
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I too am of the old school. I do the polite thing because of upbringing. That is what my parents taught me to do. In fact that is what my parents practiced.

Many years went by before I realized that I do this for all the reasons that you mentioned but... foremost, I do this because it is right. Once I got this thru my head it was easier to let the ungrateful go on about their business without comment.

Knowing that you are right, respectful, and polite in all things is satisfaction enough. Acknowledgement of those things is icing on the cake.

I could not have said it any better myself . I teach my kids the same, do not do something looking for praise. do it out of the goodness of your heart. as long as you know you are a good person and treat people correctly that is all that matters. being polite is the only way to fly in my book. I am a huge believer in Karma and the fact that we should treat people as we would like to be treated. to me this motto has gotten me through some very rough times growing up and has made me a well rounded person according to my wife, friends , co-workers and everybody else that gets to know me. I am a very modest person who does not look for fame, glory or recognition. just the fact that I am happy with who I am makes every day on this planet a great experience. sorry to be so long winded.
 
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Old 12-19-05, 04:57   #24 (permalink)
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Move south Sean...southern hospitality is very real and a pleasent change from living in New England.
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