Any home theater buffs? - Page 3

John Styrnol · 11-03-05, 01:46

You should still be ok with the Klipsch, just set the crossover on the sub for anything below what the Klipsch cannot handle.

BlackSunshine · 11-03-05, 01:53

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Originally Posted by John Styrnol

You should still be ok with the Klipsch, just set the crossover on the sub for anything below what the Klipsch cannot handle.

My sub doesn't have an adjustable crossover, actually. Check it out.
http://www.svsubwoofers.com/subs_pb10_isd.htm

It's got a gain and a phase.

drewski59 · 11-03-05, 02:23

With the RF-7s, don't turn the bass off. You might as well just get small bookshelf speakers if you are going to do that.

Keep the bass on both of them, just switch the phase on the sub to 180*. That way they won't cancel each other out.

Two PB10s would be awesome!!!

the other pc · 11-03-05, 02:54

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Originally Posted by drewski59

.... just switch the phase on the sub to 180*. That way they won't cancel each other out...

Unless you know for a fact that all your signal paths maintain absolute phase (polarity) including both the receiver's internal amplifiers and the subwoofer's internal amp you can't be sure. You'll have to try it both ways and see what works.

Does the receiver have any kind of programmability for crossing over the subwoofer?

PC.

BlackSunshine · 11-03-05, 05:53

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Originally Posted by the other pc

Does the receiver have any kind of programmability for crossing over the subwoofer?

PC.

The only control I have over the subwoofer from the receiver is whether bass is directed to only it, to both it and the mains, or just the mains. I can then adjust the level of the sub at 1db increments from -20 to 0. I currently have the bass set to only sub, all other speakers set to "small" and the level at -5 on the receiver, with the gain at about 75% on the sub. All per recommendation from Tom at SVS.

Tom at SVS had also said something about adjusting the crossover on the receiver, but I don't seem to have that option. I would be willing to upgrade if this would help me get the most out of my stuff. I don't want to skimp. If I'm going to be running thousands of dollars worth of speakers, I want the best receiver for them all.

John Styrnol · 11-03-05, 06:30

If it were me I would get rid of that sub and pick one up that has an crossover, it just might be the cheapest way around for you. You would also have your mains as large to get the most out of them.

BlackSunshine · 11-04-05, 01:37

Well I went in today and auditioned the RF-7s once again, and came away a little confused. They just did NOT have the bass I was expecting from twin 10" drivers. They were hooked up to a 50 watt per channel receiver, which is half of what I have, but the guy said they played around with different receivers and he said I wouldn't get much better sound out of my receiver until higher levels of volumes.

He let me listen to a set of Monitor RS-8s (I believe) and they sounded great, and actually had more bass than the RF-7s, but they were also connected to a 150watt per channel receiver.

I need to find a store that carries Klipsch, Paradigm, B&W, Monitor, Def. Tech., and any other speaker in the $1000 (each) range.

John Styrnol · 11-04-05, 02:13

Are you talking about Monitor Audio speakers. I had a whole HT setup with them, silver 5i, silver 3, silver 10i very nice speaker for the price and size. I liked these over my Klipsch's.

BlackSunshine · 11-04-05, 02:20

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Originally Posted by John Styrnol

Are you talking about Monitor Audio speakers. I had a whole HT setup with them, silver 5i, silver 3, silver 10i very nice speaker for the price and size. I liked these over my Klipsch's.

Yep, they had a really nice, warm tone to them and were finished better than the Klipsch's. Crazy sound out of two small 6 inch diameter woofers. It's unbelievable how these companies can make these speakers sound so great for no more than is there in the enclosure. They were about $1500 a pair.

http://www.monitoraudio.com/products...series/rs8.htm

They're definitely not as sensitive as the Klipsch's on paper.

the other pc · 11-04-05, 03:25

I've always loved Monitor Audio's stuff.

Hard to say what was going on there. On paper the RF-7s and RS 8s roll off at almost exactly the same frequency (32Hz for the RF-7, 33Hz for the RS8) but there's so much more to speaker characteristics and sound perception that that's only one part of the larger picture. Were the two sets in close to the same positions in the room?

The difference in sensitivity between the RF-7s and RS 8s (102dB 2.83v/1m vs. 91dB 2.83v/1m) should mean that the RF-7s with a 55W amp would still swamp the RS 8s with a 150W amp as far as getting loud. But bass quality, extension, balance and transient attack aren't things you can put simple numbers on.

If you really like the sound of the Monitor Audio stuff you may want to consider mating up smaller speakers like the RS 1s with your SVS sub.

PC.

steck · 11-04-05, 07:20

Nad's receivers sound real nice with Klipsch horns..

I had a yammi running my Klipsch's and it sounded terrible in 'two channel' stereo mode,,,but movies sounded alright...when I switched to the NAD 762, it brought the Klipsh's to life.

wow, RF-7's!!! cool.

I'll get a pic of my "home theatre" up soon..

BlackSunshine · 11-05-05, 08:13

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Originally Posted by steck

Nad's receivers sound real nice with Klipsch horns..

I had a yammi running my Klipsch's and it sounded terrible in 'two channel' stereo mode,,,but movies sounded alright...when I switched to the NAD 762, it brought the Klipsh's to life.

wow, RF-7's!!! cool.

I'll get a pic of my "home theatre" up soon..

The 150 watt receiver they had running the Monitors at Kief's was an Nad. The salesman was really understanding and said I could bring my receiver in and hook it up to any speaker, no problem. That's a lot of work and lugging around, though. I don't understand how one brand of amplifier can sound so much different than another, assuming they're the same type. I can see where one might not "hiss" as much, but it's intriguing to me that they can sound different.

PC- I am thinking I may do something like that, but I really want to cover all my bases first. Do you think the Klipsch's would sound any better (more bass?) with my 110 watt receiver, or will this difference in power only come into play when more volume is desired? The room the speakers were all in was rectangular, with the longer sides about twice as long as the shorter sides. The RF-7s were along the longer wall, not in a corner. The Monitors were on a shorter side, about three feet from the corner and a foot from the wall behind them, same with the Klipsch's.

This has really sparked my interest, which kind of sucks because now I'm going to be driving hours to listen to different brands

What is a good site where all these different speakers are compared? Audioreview didn't have anything on the Monitors I was looking for.