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Old 04-21-08, 07:41   #25 (permalink)
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Re: Are you pissed off at the high gas prices?

I purchased a Civic Hybrid last summer for the use of the HOV lane. There were a few times I really thought of getting rid of the car; it's boring, slow, and handles like pooh. The 2 times I really considered getting rid it was changed when I came home in the HOV lane. It shaves about and hour of driving time for me daily.

Now that gas is getting so expensive, I don't think I will get rid of the car anytime soon. My best tank to date is 53 mpg and my worse is 42. I have averaged 50 + on the past 3 tanks. I know a lot of people against the Hybrids say it's not an earth friendly car, and it will take forever to cover the cost diff. going with the Hybrid, but I am glad I have it now.
 
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Old 04-21-08, 09:51   #26 (permalink)
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Re: Are you pissed off at the high gas prices?

I'm not pissed that I just paid $4.19/gallon. I think we'll look back on that as being a bargain.

The major oil producing countries are running full steam. There's just not much out there in terms of increasing production. Last week, Russia posted a decline in production for the first time in a decade, stating that they've likely peaked, and they are one of the world's largest producers and exporters of crude. The Saudi's will not increase production, stating the market is well-supplied. I'm not sure what market they are tracking. My inkling is that they simply can't increase production.

As for oil production: Cantarell, Mexico's largest field, is in decline. The North Sea is in decline. The U.S. has been in decline since 1970...the list goes on. The tar sands take extensive amounts of energy and water infusion to extract the oil from. There just isn't any more easy oil out there, and it will therefore continue to become more expensive and scarcer. If there were any more easy oil do you really think the oil companies would be going to the tar sands and deep water?

We'll never run out of oil, we'll just get to a point where we can't increase production any more, then start declining year-after-year. And it looks like we're right at the doorstep.

Peak oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hirsch report - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Peak Oil Review -- April 21st, 2008 | IBT Commodities & Futures

Former CEO of Talisman Energy: Peak oil is 'here or hereabouts' | EnergyBulletin.net | Peak Oil News Clearinghouse

EVWORLD FEATURE: Saudi King's Quiet Bombshell: Peak Oil | Saudi Arabia | Kind Abdullah

Oil numbers - Paul Krugman - Op-Ed Columnist - New York Times Blog

I usually don't want to be wrong about things, but in this case I do. I really hope I, and anyone else who is aware of this, is wrong.

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Old 04-21-08, 10:00   #27 (permalink)
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In Reply to Dumass in Lithuania you are comparing apples to oranges. You are a tiny country and don't have the commutes we have here for jobs. I live in Southern California where there isn't any tranposrtation system to speak of. I tried to use public transportation to get to Los Angeles Airport ,which is 65 miles from me, on a Sunday and it took me 7 hours to get there. Not an alternative. And don't forget that my father and other Americans fought and died to save your country from the Nazis. We have the right to whine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-22-08, 05:05   #28 (permalink)
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Re: Are you pissed off at the high gas prices?

Its more than just oil when looking at the big picture. The largest threat to our planet is the destruction of natural resources. Are alternative fuels the answer
? Yes but we need buy in from the government and car manufacturers to head in that direction.

Discovery hd had a program about alternative fuels, lighter car parts, better tires, etc so the ideas and products are out there. However, the big machine is preventing them from coming to market. The most memorable part of the show was about a sweedish company that made road side hydrogen fueling stations that run on rain water and solar power. That's clean and pure.

Anyway, I just spoke to a co-worker based in London and they're paying close to $11.00 a gallon.
 
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In Reply to Dumass in Lithuania you are comparing apples to oranges. You are a tiny country and don't have the commutes we have here for jobs. I live in Southern California where there isn't any tranposrtation system to speak of. I tried to use public transportation to get to Los Angeles Airport ,which is 65 miles from me, on a Sunday and it took me 7 hours to get there. Not an alternative. And don't forget that my father and other Americans fought and died to save your country from the Nazis. We have the right to whine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Are you pissed off at the high gas prices?

im a little pissed off that i had to fill up my f-450 2 times this week at 140 a pop for diesel fuel... 280 per week is way too much to be spending on gas when diesel is 4.45/gal.
 
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im a little pissed off that i had to fill up my f-450 2 times this week at 140 a pop for diesel fuel... 280 per week is way too much to be spending on gas when diesel is 4.45/gal.
I was just going to ask how the diesel guys are doing. I've seen it close to $5.00 here in NYC. This is having a large effect on deliveries and charges, wonder when FedEx and UPS are going to pass even more of those fuel costs onto consumers.
 
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We'll hit rock bottom before anything changes... just like drug addicts.
 
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Consider yourselves lucky in the US. Here in the UK we pay DOUBLE what you pay for fuel
 
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Old 04-26-08, 07:10   #34 (permalink)
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i can understand the complaints when it comes from businesses, etc that take a considerable hit due to rising gas prices. what i personally have no sympathy for are the people that complain about the costs when they chose to purchase huge SUVs and trucks that use them for nothing more than standard transportation. now, i'm not a tree hugging environmentalist...just a realist. my Z gets pretty bad MPG in town...as in 18-20 (28-30 on the highway), but i knew that going into it...and i also don't complain about it.

when i hear soccermoms or guys at work complain about their F-250 or Denali fuel costs, i just laugh and shake my head. seriously...how wasteful and ridiculous can they be when they NEVER haul anything in them more than groceries? they deserve to pay up for that excess. "oh, i deserve to drive it"...."i'm entitled to it". yes, you are "entitled"...sure...but you're going to start paying a LOT more now.

again, this does not apply to the people that actually NEED a large vehicle...just the ones that got them for show. time to start paying up.

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All while the big oil companies made record breaking profit last year.
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with gas prices at $4 a gallon (for now), i wonder what this world is coming to...
 
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