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Old 04-21-08, 06:10   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Are you pissed off at the high gas prices?

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lets all just move to venezuela! if we could put up the all the kidnapping for ransom(which might not be that bad,it lets me know people care) gas is only $0.12 a gallon!!!
No, let's better move to Turkmenia, gas is for free there - you heared that right - FOR FREE!!!
 
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Old 04-21-08, 06:12   #14 (permalink)
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I'm down! I'll tell the wife it's some sort of business trip.
 
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Old 04-21-08, 06:15   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Are you pissed off at the high gas prices?

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Its not just gas though folks, its the cost of living period............And I dont know about the rest of you, but my cost of living adjustment averages about 2% a year. Not nearly enough to keep up with the real "cost of living". i.e. teenagers.
We might be whining, but is it really "fair"?
And you live on the coast where the cost of living is a little more it seems.
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Old 04-21-08, 06:57   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Are you pissed off at the high gas prices?

I've been paying over $4.00 a Gallon for the past year we are up to $4.30's for regular now. Still I would rather pay a bit more to fill my car than not have health care.
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Old 04-21-08, 07:16   #17 (permalink)
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Its not just gas though folks, its the cost of living period............And I dont know about the rest of you, but my cost of living adjustment averages about 2% a year. Not nearly enough to keep up with the real "cost of living". i.e. teenagers.
We might be whining, but is it really "fair"?
My thoughts exactly.

I think the gas issue is just shedding more light on a weakening dollar and increasing costs to survive not equally matched by yearly raises.

If this does keep up, I'd like to see where all of these SUVs will go in a year or so. I can't imagine paying double what your monthly payment is to Mobil feels all that good.
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Old 04-21-08, 07:42   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Are you pissed off at the high gas prices?

Whine on my brothers. Somebody just might start listening if we make enough noise. I heard on the radio last year there was some sort of conference outside Vancouver area where a bunch of bigshots from differenct countries converged to discuss rising oil prices and what to do about it. The irony was they all flew in on private jets oblivious to their own fuel consumption.
 
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Re: Are you pissed off at the high gas prices?

Put simply, no one has an incentive to bring prices down. The producers don't want to open the taps on a declining resource in order to sell it cheaper. They will only do this in short spurts to starve out alternative developments (see what the Saudis did to Tar Sands projects in the mid-90's). The refiners are skating on a tiny margin right now and the last thing they want to do is invest 2-5 billion dollars in a plant that's not going to increase their margin, will take 5 years to come online, and may be obsolete by then (in case of an alternative fuel breakthrough).

Most governments are taking high prices as an opportunity to tackle climate change anyways. When it comes to encouraging investment, there is no way politically that they could push a new refinery through instead of green subsidies. Not even the Republicans could pull that off right now.

So basically, no one cares about your problems because they have a special interest that they're beholden to. Welcome to American Democracy.
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Re: Are you pissed off at the high gas prices?

It sucks!

I was going to buy a new TV this summer with my tax rebate. Now I'm using it to offset the fuel cost.

Bob... What are you replacing the F150 with?
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Re: Are you pissed off at the high gas prices?

I grind my teeth when I pay for premium (93). Today I paid $47 @ $3.64/gal for my TL. Gas is starting to kill me... lets see... milk, or gas... gas, or milk? I think gas....

But oh well, at least it's only a few bucks from last year, but hell it's adding up!
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Re: Are you pissed off at the high gas prices?

OH and... when I do get that stimulus payment... hopefully $600, I'll use $300 just for gas, and the other $300 for a nice weekend get away to Orlando, or buy more detailing stuff.. if not I'll throw it into my savings.
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Re: Are you pissed off at the high gas prices?

More of the money we make detailing as a side job will be going to pay for fuel, I am sure of it as I'm starting to put more towards that. My drive to work is only 22 miles each way, I know others have much longer commutes, but you can do a lot with hypermiling techniques. I drive an SUV and get 22.6 mpg by using hypermiling, although I do have to drive a bit slower. Tires at 37-38 PSI and watching the realtime MPG gauge helps quite a bit as throttle pressure has to be lower to maintain those upper 20s. I'm in the right lane now doing 62-65 mph constant in a 320hp V8 performance SUV. If I really ramp the gas hard, it's tons of fun, but I get around 12-15 mpg driving like that.
 
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Re: Are you pissed off at the high gas prices?

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People can begin driving more efficient cars instead of SUVs that get 15 mpg.... Its all relative.
That means changin their lifestyles all because of gas.. Most people who buy a SUV take 5 years to pay it off, you cant just start switching cars around without getting into a finicial bind.
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