| Welcome to the Autopia.org. You are viewing as a guest. By joining our FREE community you will be able to interact with others. Plus, when you join you will receive instant coupon codes for special discounts with our sponsors. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!
| 
02-11-08, 08:04
|
#1 (permalink)
| | Registered User
Jayhawker is offline
Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 35 | HP wars...what will Ford do next?
I just saw a video on the Challenger, and I must say it was quite impressive. With Chevy using the 6.0 liter and Dodge using the 6.1, I am curious how Ford plans on keeping up. The 4.6 in the Mustang is a solid motor, but with the other "2" going with larger displacements, will it be enough for Ford to keep up? I know they (Ford) have the GT500 but that has a huge premium that Camaro and Challenger will not have.
Will it be wise of Ford to increase power in the 4.6 and compete with its own GT500? I'm amazed that HP is the hot thing right now with what's going on in the Middle East. I was too young to remember anything about the last "gas crunch" in the 70's. Time will tell.
Just an FYI...I have no loyalty to any of the Big 3. | |
|  | |
02-11-08, 10:25
|
#2 (permalink)
| | Registered User
TH0001 is offline
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Orlando/Oveido Posts: 2,494 | Re: HP wars...what will Ford do next?
If you look at it objectively, Ford hasn't kept up since about 1993 (when the Camaro recieved the LT1). Hell a stock '98 Z/28 used to walk my friends '00 Mustang GT that had full exhaust work (headers, 2 1/2 pipes, no cats) and a 75 hp shot of nos. My Z28 used to walk Cobras by a long shot. | |
| | |
02-11-08, 10:38
|
#3 (permalink)
| | Registered User
jalcombright is offline
Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1 | Re: HP wars...what will Ford do next?
I don't know if I would agree with the last post...
The Camaro has not received the LT1 -- at least not as I understand it. Rather, it would be the a version of the LS3 that produces around 400 hp.
Already there is talk of a Z28 version with a Roots style charger, obviously this will up the ante for the Camaro. When that happens, is the Camaro (Z28) trying to keep pace with the Mustang 4.6L or is taking on the big boy GT500 with the 5.4L? I think the answer to that is fairly obvious.
There are signficant differences of granularity among the Mustangs -- and so there shall be between Chevy's new eye candy. The question will be price.
All-in-all, I'm happy to see some muscle coming to the street. We'll see another wave as we move fossil, but for now, if you've got the ca$h, the Camaro Z28 and the GT500 are very nice machines to own.
Cheers. | |
| | |
02-11-08, 11:02
|
#4 (permalink)
| | Registered User
rjstaaf is offline
Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Upstate, SC Posts: 1,703 | Re: HP wars...what will Ford do next?
As much as I am sure any manufacturer would love to have the HP crown, the bottom line is sales. As long as the sales for the Mustang stay strong I seriously doubt Ford will worry about the HP race. If you look at Mustang sales, the V6 far outpaces any of the other models which is how it has always been...
Here is an interesting article from Motor Trend on possibilities in the near future of the Mustang. 2010 Ford Mustang - Future Vehicles - Motor Trend | |
| | |
02-11-08, 11:27
|
#5 (permalink)
| | 1981 Camaro Z28
BigJimZ28 is online now Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Levittown, Pa Posts: 2,731 | Re: HP wars...what will Ford do next?
Quote: |
Originally Posted by jalcombright I don't know if I would agree with the last post...
The Camaro has not received the LT1 -- at least not as I understand it. Rather, it would be the a version of the LS3 that produces around 400 hp.
| he is talking about 93-97 Camzro Z28 that had the LT1 | |
| | |
02-11-08, 11:38
|
#6 (permalink)
| | Registered User
kkreit01 is offline
Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 395 | Re: HP wars...what will Ford do next?
What will EVERYONE do when the combined EPA mileage for 2020 will be 35 MPG??!! I think the HP wars will be coming to an end. Sad! | |
| | |
02-11-08, 12:01
|
#7 (permalink)
| | Registered User
rjstaaf is offline
Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Upstate, SC Posts: 1,703 | Re: HP wars...what will Ford do next?
Quote: |
Originally Posted by kkreit01 What will EVERYONE do when the combined EPA mileage for 2020 will be 35 MPG??!! I think the HP wars will be coming to an end. Sad! | There was a bit on that in the article I linked above. Quote: | But here's the shock news: We hear there is a faction at Ford seriously contemplating fitting the new twin turbo EcoBoost V-6 to the 2010 Mustang. As they try to figure out how to meet 35mpg CAFE by 2020, Ford engineers are wondering whether the V-8 has a long term future. The EcoBoost engine, which is currently scheduled to debut in a performance version of the Fusion, could be the more fuel efficient alternative for Mustang in the long term. Depending on spec, the EcoBoost is capable of up to at least 415hp, and has the torque to match a regular V-8.
| The articles states the V6 would not replace the V8 but rather be another option... | |
| | |
02-11-08, 03:40
|
#8 (permalink)
| | A slave to black paint
Dylan06SS is offline
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: So Cal Posts: 282 | Re: HP wars...what will Ford do next?
Ford has never stayed in the game w/o forced induction... they'll stay w/ smaller engines and just throw blowers on them... thats their way.
__________________
Its all fun and games until someone loses an eye....
....then its just fun you can't see. | |
| | |
02-11-08, 03:43
|
#9 (permalink)
| | Master of Redundancy
jsatek is offline
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: White Plains, NY Posts: 1,608 | Re: HP wars...what will Ford do next?
Buy Chrysler.... | |
| | |
02-11-08, 03:47
|
#10 (permalink)
| | []D[][]\/[][]D
truzoom is offline
Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,643 | Re: HP wars...what will Ford do next?
I think it's difficult to say how much longer we'll have gas guzzling muscle cars around...
The Ford guys, the Chevy guys, and the Mopar guys all need to quit arguing over who's car is better and just enjoy them while they are true to the heritage. If EPA restrictions get tight, we may end up looking at sport bikes for a speed fix. | |
| | |
02-11-08, 08:42
|
#11 (permalink)
| | Now with twice the head
Scottwax is offline
Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 25,234 | Re: HP wars...what will Ford do next?
Quote: |
Originally Posted by truzoom I think it's difficult to say how much longer we'll have gas guzzling muscle cars around...
The Ford guys, the Chevy guys, and the Mopar guys all need to quit arguing over who's car is better and just enjoy them while they are true to the heritage. If EPA restrictions get tight, we may end up looking at sport bikes for a speed fix. | They said that in the 70s when V8s were making 150 hp and getting 12 mpg. Now we have 505 hp V8s (Z06) that get 16/26 mpg and burn a lot cleaner than any mid 70s car could ever hope to. I think they will find a way to improve mileage and still offer excellent performance.
__________________
Owner, Scott's Mobile Auto Detailing
I test for Optimum, Clearkote and Meguiars
| |
| | |
02-11-08, 11:41
|
#12 (permalink)
| | Registered User
kh765 is offline
Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 248 | Re: HP wars...what will Ford do next?
Quote: |
Originally Posted by jsatek Buy Chrysler.... | Someone already beat me to it... | |
| | |
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests) | | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread |  Linear Mode | | 
Posting Rules
| You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off | | | | All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:56. | | | |
