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01-28-08, 11:38
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Re: Sad, real sad...5 teens killed in high speed M5 crash
sad very sad
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01-28-08, 04:01
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Re: Sad, real sad...5 teens killed in high speed M5 crash
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01-28-08, 04:27
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Re: Sad, real sad...5 teens killed in high speed M5 crash
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I find it interesting that the local news reports which were linked through the original post failed to post these types of comments with Josh talking about going 140. Yes, it is a very sad thing that happened but people need to know the truth as well. After reading both articles at different times I have new feelings concerning this..
But I guess that is the media, picking and choosing what to report in order to make it interesting
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01-28-08, 04:33
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Re: Sad, real sad...5 teens killed in high speed M5 crash
I feel for the parents of these kids, like everyone else.
But while I have to bite my tounge, (i don't want peopel to be pissed at me) I will say this much: I agree with Brandon1
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01-28-08, 04:39
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Re: Sad, real sad...5 teens killed in high speed M5 crash
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Accumulator - I don't think seat belts would have helped in this case, the car was ripped in two and crushed like an accordion before the firemen got to it..
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Sorry, my bad- I didn't make my point properly...I mentioned their being unbuckled as a comment on their decision making; people who don't buckle up (let alone for high-speed activities) are IMO displaying a mindset that doesn't bode well for their longevity, for a whole lotta reasons.
In our household the catch-phrase is "it's a *test*", as in, a seriously pass/fail sort of decision that reflects a lot about a person. People who get one of those wrong (e.g., seatbelt use) are probably getting *others* wrong too (e.g., being in that car at that time), sometimes with fatal consequences.
Oh, and  for knowing the feet/second conversion factor for mph  Good thing to know for a host of reasons.
Setec Astronomy- Heh heh, you and I are on the same page once again
In our household, catch-phrase#2 on this topic is "et by b'ars" ["eaten by bears"] as in, back in the distant past (when personal responsibility was still the norm) certain people woulda been simply been eaten by carnivores.
But today the world is a lot safer, so every traffic fatality is a "tragedy" (scare-quotes intentional). Well, perhaps they *are* tragedies...brought about by a tragic flaw 
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01-28-08, 05:15
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Re: Sad, real sad...5 teens killed in high speed M5 crash
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I find it interesting that the local news reports which were linked through the original post failed to post these types of comments with Josh talking about going 140. Yes, it is a very sad thing that happened but people need to know the truth as well. After reading both articles at different times I have new feelings concerning this..
But I guess that is the media, picking and choosing what to report in order to make it interesting
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I'm sure laws will be passed directed toward stopping"negatively influencing people through" Internet forums before we know it, if they are not in place already.
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01-28-08, 05:16
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Re: Sad, real sad...5 teens killed in high speed M5 crash
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I feel for the parents of these kids, like everyone else.
But while I have to bite my tounge, (i don't want peopel to be pissed at me) I will say this much: I agree with Brandon1
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LoL, I was starting to think i'm alone in this one. 
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01-28-08, 06:10
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Re: Sad, real sad...5 teens killed in high speed M5 crash
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01-28-08, 06:37
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LoL, I was starting to think i'm alone in this one. 
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I know how *I* was at that age. I know that *I* had no business with a 500HP car. My son wont either and therefore he wont have one. I completely agree that the parents of the driver are *most* at fault for what happened here.
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01-28-08, 06:49
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Re: Sad, real sad...5 teens killed in high speed M5 crash
Let me take this opportunity to remind all of my friends here at Autopia with new drivers in their families. I don't care if it cost more money for insurance. When your kids start driving, make sure to register, title and insure their car in THEIR name not yours. I know this situation is different because it was dad's car being driven but I'm talking about your average case when the child is driving their own vehicle. I have never discussed what I do for a living on this forum but let's just say that I have a strong back ground in automobile law and insurance. The emotional destruction that these families will face is incomprehensible. The financial devastation will further exacerbate things. My heart goes out to all of these families who will never be the same.
Respectfully,
Patrick
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01-28-08, 07:42
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Re: Sad, real sad...5 teens killed in high speed M5 crash
It doesn't hit people until someone they know and care for is lost. I have lost a few friends because of drinking and driving. It's nothing to mess with
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01-28-08, 08:09
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Re: Sad, real sad...5 teens killed in high speed M5 crash
A similar incident happened in my home town two years ago, but with a Ford Harley Davidson F150 (Supercharged) Two teens, down a hill, rolled, and guess who was killed.......yup, the passenger.
Not doing 140 mph but traveling way too fast down a hill and around a corner.....
I would venture to say the majority of respondents to this thread have lost a dear one due to an auto accident......
I lot my best friend at the ripe age of 18 in a roll over (off road), and one on a motorcycle, plus both passengers in both accidents severely injured........
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