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Old 10-06-09, 05:17   #13 (permalink)
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Re: A New Era... The Waterless Wash

What does HD mean DavidB? Are coin washes safe to use? I don't have very many detailing tools so I ask because the coin wash does have great tools.
 
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Old 10-06-09, 05:40   #14 (permalink)
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Re: A New Era... The Waterless Wash

I ave to admit, I purchased 16 oz of Chemical Guys Waterless wash. I have 4 cars and keeping them clean can be a chore and its time to try an alternative to washing, especially with winter coming soon.
 
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Old 10-07-09, 08:13   #15 (permalink)
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Re: A New Era... The Waterless Wash

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What does HD mean DavidB? Are coin washes safe to use? I don't have very many detailing tools so I ask because the coin wash does have great tools.
Most coin operated wash bays are nothing more than a pressure washer that can also distribute cleaners. I've never had an issue with a coin operated wash bay. I can't say that most of their chemical are any good, but it was always a good place to go when the 4x4 or dirt toys were too dirty to wash off in my own driveway. Now, it's the place I have to go when my Bronco is too dirty for just the waterless wash.

HD stands for "High Definition Car Care". It's a new brand that I recently helped develop, launch and now promote.
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Old 10-08-09, 01:02   #16 (permalink)
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Re: A New Era... The Waterless Wash

Wow very nice DavidB. I'm new to all this detailing and trying real hard to learn as much as I can to repair my own vehicle. My thing is the brushes at the coin-ops look a little shady, I don't know if they are paint safe etc. Chemicals to be are sub-par to about par but its cheap and convenient, I'm just concerned about creating tiny scratches.

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Re: A New Era... The Waterless Wash

Those brushes are going to DESTROY your paint. I tried polishing out my buddy's eclipse the other day and it was a nightmare. He took it to the local wash station and used the brush because it was convenient too. If you can afford it, get some waterless wash product. ONR, HD Free, etc... You will find that this stuff is just as convenient and MUCH safer for your paint.
 
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My thing is the brushes at the coin-ops look a little shady, I don't know if they are paint safe etc.
Even if they were paint safe when new, you have to assume they have been used used by a bunch of Ya-Hoos to scrub the mud and gunk off of their ATV and 4x4. So, now they are nothing more than sandpaper on a stick.

I suggest you take these essential items to your coin-op wash when you go:

- 3-5 gallon bucket
- Wheel/fender brush
- Sponge or wash mitt
- All-Purpose Cleaner (APC) of choice
- Waterless car wash of choice in spray bottle
- Drying towels

When you get to the coin-op, pull into the bay with the most shade and get your cleaning supplies out (minus the towels and the waterless wash) and put them by the coin-op machine.

Before putting money in the machine, spray all four tires and wheels with your APC. At the same time, do a quick walk around and lightly spray any heavy areas of bugs or road grease. Now, turn the dial to "High Pressure Rinse" put your money in the machine. Before rinsing the vehicle, stick the nozzle in your bucket and fill it. Now, rinse your car, making sure to get up under the wheel wells, grill areas, and under the bumpers. If you still have time on the clock, turn the dial to "Spot Free Rinse" and finish rinsing with deionized water.

The bucket of fresh water is for scrubbing your tires and wheels a second time if needed. You way also need this fresh water to clean your door jambs or to give your towels a good rinsing before your go. In other words, be prepared and leave your dirty water with the coin-op.

Now you can use your waterless car wash product to finish cleaning and dry your car. Simply spray it liberally over a panel and wipe it dry.

On your drive home, water will blow out of all the nooks and crannies back onto the side of your car. Don't worry about it. When you get back home, park your car in the garage or a shaded area area and give it another light wipe down with the waterless wash spray or your favorite detail spray. By now, your tires will also be dry enough to dress.

Stand back, pop a cold beverage.
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Even if they were paint safe when new, you have to assume they have been used used by a bunch of Ya-Hoos to scrub the mud and gunk off of their ATV and 4x4. So, now they are nothing more than sandpaper on a stick.

I suggest you take these essential items to your coin-op wash when you go:

- 3-5 gallon bucket
- Wheel/fender brush
- Sponge or wash mitt
- All-Purpose Cleaner (APC) of choice
- Waterless car wash of choice in spray bottle
- Drying towels

When you get to the coin-op, pull into the bay with the most shade and get your cleaning supplies out (minus the towels and the waterless wash) and put them by the coin-op machine.

Before putting money in the machine, spray all four tires and wheels with your APC. At the same time, do a quick walk around and lightly spray any heavy areas of bugs or road grease. Now, turn the dial to "High Pressure Rinse" put your money in the machine. Before rinsing the vehicle, stick the nozzle in your bucket and fill it. Now, rinse your car, making sure to get up under the wheel wells, grill areas, and under the bumpers. If you still have time on the clock, turn the dial to "Spot Free Rinse" and finish rinsing with deionized water.

The bucket of fresh water is for scrubbing your tires and wheels a second time if needed. You way also need this fresh water to clean your door jambs or to give your towels a good rinsing before your go. In other words, be prepared and leave your dirty water with the coin-op.

Now you can use your waterless car wash product to finish cleaning and dry your car. Simply spray it liberally over a panel and wipe it dry.

On your drive home, water will blow out of all the nooks and crannies back onto the side of your car. Don't worry about it. When you get back home, park your car in the garage or a shaded area area and give it another light wipe down with the waterless wash spray or your favorite detail spray. By now, your tires will also be dry enough to dress.

Stand back, pop a cold beverage.
sounds like a good idea, but how does the waterless wash stuff work when your have a soaked MF from the rinsing???

i assumed waterless washes worked best with a dry MF and a surface prepped with the waterless wash solution.

could you explain the waterless wash method after doing the deionized rinse a little better?





when i did use these bays, i would go in, do a spray and high pressure rinse like you mentioned, but would put a minimal amount of money in..... then i would use my buckets and do a nice wash since i was already there... and then use the deionized water to rinse, pull it out (couldnt dry in the bay). go ahead and dry it, do my post wash wax is needed, and use the detailer or waterless wash to catch streaks from water coming out of cracks later....

but yeah, +1 on not using the brushes there... friend did that once and i laughed at him and asked him how he liked the swirls and scratches.... he replied "oh dang, so you saw my car?".... i never saw it either, but he thought i did since i told him the brush would do that.

the sad thing is, a lot of those places have quality brushes, some even have BHB type brushes, but they get ruined after the first guy comes in and brushes off his wheels and tires with it then leaves it sitting there since you are unable to actually rinse it
 
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I ave to admit, I purchased 16 oz of Chemical Guys Waterless wash. I have 4 cars and keeping them clean can be a chore and its time to try an alternative to washing, especially with winter coming soon.
I bought some about 2 months ago and I will have to say in my opinion this stuff works great. Anybody else out there like this?
 
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Re: A New Era... The Waterless Wash

I think a rinseless wash is as eco friendly as a waterless. The difference is the amount of water can be as little as what is used to flush a toilet one time.
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