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Old 08-30-09, 08:19   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Great deal on #16 on ebay...

Just picked up two myself. Thanks!
 
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Old 08-30-09, 10:21   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Great deal on #16 on ebay...

Just bought 3, thanks for the heads up!
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Old 08-30-09, 05:31   #15 (permalink)
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Re: Great deal on #16 on ebay...

Made an offer for 2 @ $4
 
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Old 08-30-09, 05:41   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Great deal on #16 on ebay...

Got 2 for $12.

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Old 08-30-09, 06:33   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Great deal on #16 on ebay...

Got their NXT2 paste and spray combo for $14 shipped and 2x of the #16s for $5 each. Awesome. Thanks for the headsup.
 
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Old 08-30-09, 10:09   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Great deal on #16 on ebay...

So I don't get it. What's so good about this #16. Could you guys school me on this?
 
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Old 08-30-09, 10:37   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Great deal on #16 on ebay...

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So I don't get it. What's so good about this #16. Could you guys school me on this?
I'm wondering the same thing.

He's sold 300 already though, and the auction is over.
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Old 08-31-09, 09:42   #20 (permalink)
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So I don't get it. What's so good about this #16. Could you guys school me on this?
It is probably Meguiar's longest lasting wax, think of it as Meguiar's version of Collinite. Although it doesn't last as long as Collinite it beads better and some argue that it looks better. It is a pure wax that can be layered over a sealant with comparable durability to a low-end sealant. It is extremely easy to use for a paste wax. It's discontinued in America and goes for anywhere from $20-60/tin average online retail. This price is a steal, especially considering she is accepting absurdly low offers on it. I got ten tins at $4/tin. That should last me forever (I already have four tins), plus I could always throw a few on ebay 6 months from now.
 
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Re: Great deal on #16 on ebay...

Just bought some.

#16 used to be excellent wax in terms of durability. It was pretty easy to apply and remove as long as you kept it thin.

Before collinite, it was the gold standard for long lasting caranubas .
 
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Re: Great deal on #16 on ebay...

Just to add to the conversation, M16 was introduced in 1951, it was Meguiar's first automotive wax on the market.

It's referred to as a heavy wax and should only be applied using very thin coats. If you apply it too thick it will break your arm off trying to remove it and you'll likely instill scratches into the paint a the same time.

I used this for 10 years as my LSP of choice when I detailed full time.

For Newbies using M16, do yourself a favor and when you go to apply it for th first time only apply it to about a one foot squared section on your hood or trunk lid. Let it completely dry before removing it. Then carefully remove it using your best microfiber and using the Pac Man method of removing wax.

Then see how you like it before applying it to the entire car. I'm serious in that if you apply a thick coat and then let the coating completely dry and harden, it will be a bear to remove.


Here's a few things I've written on it from MOL

How To Break-in a New Can of M16

Often times the wax in a brand new can of M16 will have an irregular surface. Because you're not supposed to scoop this wax out of the can but instead spin your wax applicator against the surface of the wax in the can you need a flat surface. So the first thing you do when you open a brand new can of M16 is to "Break-in the can of wax".

To do this, take your clean wax applicator pad and basically push/smoosh any high points down and then use the applicator pad to smooth out the top surface of the wax by agitating/spinning your applicator against it until it's flat.




Note the uplifted and irregular surface of the wax which is normal.




Smash down any high points and then smooth out the surface till it's as flat as you can get it.



Now your can of wax is ready to use!



When you go to remove wax from the can, spin your applicator on the top surface focusing on the outer edges while at the same time spinning or rotating the can with your other hand.

Spinning your applicator against the hard wax will liquefy it enough to allow some wax to seep into your applicator pad.

Spinning or rotating the can at the same time with your other hand will enable you to take the wax down evenly across the surface instead of removing more wax out of the center producing a cone-shape in the center. The better you can keep the surface flat the easier it will be to remove the wax out of the can over time until you get towards the bottom of the can.


And this one,


The Secret Slot - How to open a can of M16

The lid for Meguiar's M1611 Professional Paste wax, as well as all the lids for all Meguiar's' paste waxes in our paste wax tin cans, has a slot built into it to help you remove the lid.

Most old timers know of the Quarter Trick but just as many people use Flathead Screwdriver. Often times you'll find you have a Quarter in your pocket but you don't always have a Flathead Screwdriver in your pocket.

Below are some pictures that show the slot in the lid and how to use a Quarter to open a can of M16 by sticking the Quarter into the slot and then twisting the Quarter like you twist a set of car keys when you start a car.










Again, this works with all Meguiar's paste wax cans that look like this can of M1611



Last time I used it I topped this car with M16 as I wanted to wax the antique paint with a wax that would be considered period correct for this vintage of a car. I used about $30.00 of OTC products and a lot of perspiration and passion behind the pad and it paid off very handsomely for one days work.

This is the most I've ever made for hand-rubbing out a finish.


It looks good in this picture but when pulled out into the sun you could see the entire finish was filled with swirls and had a lifeless hazy look to it.




Major swirls throughout the entire finish





Before and After





After shots - Lots of real-estate but it was a fun project!









You can expect to see some pigment transfer off onto your applicator pads. I used terry cloth applicator pads until I got to the waxing steps then I switched over to foam.




$700.00 for the work and a $100.00 tip, not bad for a Saturday




I'm currently looking for classic cars in the South Florida area for an extreme makeover project, they don't have to be this old but they do have to have single stage paint. Call or e-mail if you have a candidate. There won't be a charge if your car is selected as it will be used for training purposes.


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I have pictures of the car completely covered with a thin coat of M16 drying, had this been a thick coat of wax it would have killed me to wipe it off after previously rugging the paint out with 3 other products and with the paint cleaner really putting some passion behind the pad.


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Re: Great deal on #16 on ebay...

I've been using #16 for years and find that if you apply #16 too thickly and let it dry, reapplying another coat will redissolve the wax and make it easier to remove.

Few LSP's bead as tight and high as #16.

I apply #16 over my sealant when entering the winter season. The sealant and #16 combo easily handles 5 months of winter's bad weather on my daily driver.

I like this stuff and was sad to see it dropped. Fortunately, I stocked up enough to last me a lifetime.
 
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Old 08-31-09, 10:36   #24 (permalink)
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Re: Great deal on #16 on ebay...

Thanks Mike, that should clear up any confusion as to why M16 is what it is. To me, I like it, there may be better stuff out there, but its just cool knowing this formula is over 50yrs old.
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