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Old 12-28-04, 07:44   #157 (permalink)
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Hey i just spotted this thread but wanted to wish you Good luck on your new house it's only something i can dream to have one day!
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Old 01-01-05, 07:10   #158 (permalink)
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Thanks again to everyone for their compliments and suggestions.

New Years update:

The concrete contractor just applied the solvent-based clear sealer to the acid etched concrete floors. They use the Stain-crete system, but other acid staining options exist.

I really had a difficult time deciding what to do with the concrete floors.

Bare concrete: Looks good when new. Eventually stains and darkens.

Plastic tiles (i.e. Race Deck): Looks nice but covering 1900 sq ft with a "floating" plastic floor didn't appeal to me. I may still use these tiles in discrete areas.

Quartz ceramic tiles: The ultimate look. Way too expensive (no offense, Ultgar)

Vinyl tiles: I grew up in an old home with lifting, cracking linoleum tiles. It's a lot of labor for a product that has dubious durability. I can just picture the unpleasant process of stripping the adhesive if it didn't work out.

Epoxy based paints( i.e. Griots, UCoat-it) Impressive looking apllications. Solid color floors look great. Cost is reasonable. However, even when applied professionally with impeccable preparation, these finishes eventually fail. Period.

Acid stained finishes: Metallic salts in an acidic, water-based solution react with hydrated lime (calcium hydroxide) in hardened concrete to yield insoluble, colored compounds that become a permanent part of the concrete. The color becomes intergral to the concrete and will not chip off. The finish has a variegated, marble-like quality...you may or may not like the look.

Acid based finishes are pretty cost effective (about $3.50/sq foot). It is usually topped off with a UV stable, solvent based clear coat that can be reapplied anytime later.

Downsides? Color options are generally limited to "earth tone" colors like tan, brown, green.

Well enough talk. Here are the pics:







 
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That looks good Dean, the only thing I wouldn't like about it is you can't really see it if you have an oil spill (drip, leak, etc.) because of the color. Do they still make solvent-based clear concrete sealers? I thought they were all water-based now.

If I ever get the chance to select a finish like that, I think I would just go for the clear, even if it IS boring. Actually, I would want a light gray paint, but I agree, they always fail.
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Mike,

Water-based clear coats for concrete are available, but my contractor used a solvent based clear. The volatile fumes are incredible. I don't think that I could work with that stuff for more than 15 mintutes without some type of respirator.

You're right about difficulty seeing oil spills. I have a 1987 Porsche 911, so spills will occur! I think I'll put patches of race deck tile where the some of the cars park.

With the clear coat, the contractor says it should tolerate everything but brake fluid.

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Dean,

I like the look. The floors look like some of our better local restaurants.
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Water-based clear coats for concrete are available, but my contractor used a solvent based clear. The volatile fumes are incredible. I don't think that I could work with that stuff for more than 15 mintutes without some type of respirator.

With the clear coat, the contractor says it should tolerate everything but brake fluid.

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LOL....I sealed my garage floor about 20 years ago with the solvent-based stuff, IIRC it was half plastic, half toluene! Maybe that's why I'm a little goofy now. Last time I did it (2-3 years ago) I researched a little and didn't see any solvent-based, so I figured the VOC limits had killed it.

Do you have any concerns about slickness when wet? My garage floor is 45 years old, and not in the best shape, but the spots that sealed well can be really slippery when rain water from the cars, for instance gets on them. I know they mix in some traction stuff to the epoxy paint, but the downside of that is it makes it so hard to clean.
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Mike,

I am concerned about the slickness of the clear coat. My contractor assured me that there is some type of "anti-skid" finish, but that remains to be seen. I did look over some of the commercial applications of this stuff (i.e. restaurants, "Sea World" park) and didn't think it was that slippery.

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Well, fellow Autopians, the end is near. Today we closed on the new house. Moving starts in 3 days. It will be a busy time and my computer will be down a few days.

I'm excited about the new house. It's 90% of what I envisioned it to be. The garage renovations are only beginning. I ordered the Rotary Revolution 4 post lift today, and it should be installed in 4 weeks.

I'll post pics of the car collection in the garage ASAP.

In the meantime, I want to thank all those Autopians with great suggestions and words of encouragement. Thanks for sharing in the process of seeing a garage go from concept to reality. I'm amazed that this thread has over 13,000 views!

Anyway....Best wishes and happy motoring!

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Seems like your construction process went much more smoothly than ours did. Congratulations!

BTW, hope you have a riding mower!
 
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Dean,

Thanks for all the great pics! Please keep posting as you make improvements. It really looks great with the landscaping in and everything.

One question: When is the inaugural event?
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What's going on with the grass? It's not that brown even up here in NJ.
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Update:

The contract with the builder has been signed, and the construction loan was approved last week.

Today, the underbrush around the lot was cleared.

New garage (with attached house) coming soon!


What a transformation in just 8 months!!
You & your family must be so excited!! Great job, Dean!!
 
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