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Old 11-23-05, 08:16   #1 (permalink)
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Question Brake bleeding...

Hey,
I have never changed my own brake fluid before. Does it really require two people to bleed the brakes? Or is there a simple way to do it by yourself? And what about those bleeding machines. Anyone have experience with those?

I want to replace my fluid with ATE Super Blue once spring rolls around. I want to make sure that I have everything I need by then.

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Old 11-25-05, 11:36   #2 (permalink)
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Google around and you’ll find a lot of stuff about brake bleeding on various car-guy sites. (There’s a good DIY pressure bleeder article floating around cyberspace that turns up often.)

Here’s my condensed version:

The simplest traditional method is to have two people. One pumps the brake pedal while the other turns the bleed nipples. Pros: cheap, requires only a wrench and a short length of tubing. Cons: requires two people (who must work well in sync with each other), can suck air into system, you need to keep topping off the reservoir manually.

A pressure bleeder forces fresh fluid into the reservoir as one person turns the bleed nipples. Pros: very fast and effective, only one person needed. Cons: requires equipment, commercial pressure bleeders are pricey, will make a BIG mess very quickly if pressure bleeder and brake reservoir don’t seal perfectly.

Vacuum bleeders connect to the bleed nipples and suck the fluid from the system. Pros: one man operation, can’t overflow reservoir. Cons: can suck air into system, large commercial vacuum bleeders can be expensive, small commercial vacuum bleeders are inexpensive but tedious to use, you need to keep topping off the reservoir manually.

Speed Bleeders are bleed nipples with built in check valves that allow one person to do a traditional pedal pumped bleed. Pros: Cheap, some swear by them. Cons: others swear at them, can suck air into system, you need to keep topping off the reservoir manually.

Important Side Note: Many (most? all?) electronic anti-lock brake systems can’t be fully flushed manually. There are too many internal nooks, crannies, valves, orifices and pistons. Brake shops hook up an electronic gizmo that fires the electrical solenoid valves while bleeding to flush the whole system.


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Old 11-25-05, 12:29   #3 (permalink)
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i am planning on bleeding brakes come spring..as well as changing my rotors and pads.i've heard good think bout this motive brake bleeder
 
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Old 11-25-05, 06:20   #4 (permalink)
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i am planning on bleeding brakes come spring..as well as changing my rotors and pads.i've heard good think bout this motive brake bleeder
The Motive Brake bleeder is AWESOME!!! Worth every penny.

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Old 11-26-05, 08:02   #5 (permalink)
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Yep, motive makes it a cake job.
 
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Sweet! Thanks, guys.

That Motive Universal Bleeder will fit my PT, so I think that's what I'll go with.

But I'm wondering on how many liters of Super Blue to order. I can't find brake fluid capacity anywhere!
Does anyone know how many liters of fluid a car normally takes??
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Old 11-26-05, 02:26   #7 (permalink)
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Sweet! Thanks, guys.

That Motive Universal Bleeder will fit my PT, so I think that's what I'll go with.

But I'm wondering on how many liters of Super Blue to order. I can't find brake fluid capacity anywhere!
Does anyone know how many liters of fluid a car normally takes??


your looking for ate blue racing fluid...if you are i know where the sell it...you wouldnt believe me if told..here goes Motives sells it here's the link motive super blue brake fluid (yellow or blue)


hehe after rereading the post..i see that you wanted to see how much fluid you pt holds ...they probaly would list it in your owner's manual
 
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Thanks for the link, but I can get it from FCP Groton(a Volvo parts seller) for $9/liter.

Of course I've checked the manual. Doesn't say a thing...either does the Haynes manual:dunno

If anyone who owns a stratus or pt cruiser(same engine) wants to chime in here...that would be great.

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Speedbleeders, The only way to go!
https://www.speedbleeder.com/
 
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If I remeber right, I needed 1.5L to bleed my Maxima, but this is because it was my first time so I was extra careful to get everything flushed. Remember to order a bit more than your system capacity since some of it will be pushed out to clear you old fluid.
 
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Check out this site for lot's of usefull info about bleeding and fluid !
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Whats a liter?

 
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