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06-14-05, 06:29
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G35stilez is offline
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Need someone good with electric *reward for job*
So about a year ago my HID aftermarket setup took a crap on me. It seemed that the relay had died so I ordered up a new piece which was hard as hell to find. I ended up getting it from a Harvard Electronics Professor  . Anyways, couldn't get the kit working.
If you know HID, you know that they last a long time. No, this kit isn't a big name, but I still think it should work. I don't know which part of the equation is busted but I would like to find out so I can see where I can go with the kit.
The terms are pretty much this:
-I ship the kit to the person chosen along with a money order to pay for shipping back
-Once figured out what the problem is, told to me the diagnosis, and shipped back, I will send out a nice sampler of some choice detailing products (requests can surely be made)
I'm not sure how I will choose for someone to do this yet, but I guess just note your electronic background and what you plan on doing to diagnose.
Thanks  .
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06-15-05, 05:51
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That's putting a lot of faith in someone you don't know! Why don't you offer some detailing services to someone local who could help you out?
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06-15-05, 08:59
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Sean,
Have you tried troubleshooting it yourself? Personally, I think it is something you can possibly do yourself. Have you tried troubleshooting it from all areas? If it were me, I'd just check to see if current is going through your relay. It also could be your igniter/ballast. 
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06-15-05, 10:01
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Originally posted by Denzil
Sean,
Have you tried troubleshooting it yourself? Personally, I think it is something you can possibly do yourself. Have you tried troubleshooting it from all areas? If it were me, I'd just check to see if current is going through your relay. It also could be your igniter/ballast.
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Yeah... I'd just take a multimeter to the wiring in various spots to check it. Maybe the factory wiring harness isn't feeding enough juice to the ballast/igniter, in turn making the bulb not go. Or it could be a bad ballast, or bad bulb.
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06-15-05, 10:44
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I know this is a little OT, but I'm looking to add HID to my 4runner. I was under the impression that the aftermarket kits were banned by DOT?
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06-16-05, 12:13
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i've heard that as well, but you don't need to worry about it in portland.
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06-16-05, 01:40
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I was under the impression that the aftermarket kits were banned as well. 
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06-16-05, 02:26
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Well I have a degree in both electrical and telecommunicatons Engineering but don't think neither is required here.
All the electronics in a car are simple DC (Direct Current) Circuits which are fairly easy to troubleshoot. All you really have is a hot lead and a path to ground.
In fact all issues with these types of circuits boil down to one of two possiblities.
A) there is an open in the circuit (too much current)
B) there is a short somewhere in the circuit (too little current)
As Shiny Lil Detlr and Denzil have mentioned you can troubleshoot this thing your self and probaly fix it.
A relay is an electrically operated switch but there are all different types and capacities.
I'm going to go out on a limb an "assume" that your using this old HID kit you installed with a replacement relay.
There are only several possiblities as to why the old kit isn't working anymore.
1) Relay is wired wrong
2) Relay is not the same size/type (electically speaking) as the one it replaced and therefore won't work properly.
3) You have an "open" or "short" before the realy which caused the first one to fail which you have not located and repaired.
4) The old relay shorted out the lamps
5) That new relay if it is the right one is bad
6) There is an open or short after the relay.
When troubleshooting an electical probelm the entire path from source to ground needs to be checked.
Unless your 100% certain everything before the relay and whatever is between the relay and the lamps (that's not part of the kit) is okay you would be better off having someone look at it locally along the lines I've mentioned.
Will be glad to help, keep us posted..
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06-16-05, 02:55
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Aftermarket HID conversion kits are no longer legally availble for sale per the DOT. However, there is no specific federal law that I am aware of that prohibits their use. So, if you have one, you're ok. If you retrofit from a car that has OEM HIDs you're probably ok. Instead of making HID conversions illegal to own (Which would be extremely hard to enforce, especially with all the lookalike halogen bulbs out there) they just made the sale illegal.
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06-16-05, 05:10
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Yeah the kits are NOT DOT approved, BUT I know plenty of people that have retrofited HID's into their vehicles without problems.
The difference is that if you just throw some HID's bulbs into your stock housing it will BLIND people and be very ineffective.
The correct way is to use projectors off of another vehicle and "retrofit" them into your housing. This basically entails cutting a hole large enough to mount the projectors in your housing. You then have true HID's in *your* headlight housing. IMO this is the only way to do HID's.
Sorry, I can't help Sean. 
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06-21-05, 02:04
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06-22-05, 03:46
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Originally Posted by GSRstilez
So about a year ago my HID aftermarket setup took a crap on me. It seemed that the relay had died so I ordered up a new piece which was hard as hell to find. I ended up getting it from a Harvard Electronics Professor  . Anyways, couldn't get the kit working.
If you know HID, you know that they last a long time. No, this kit isn't a big name, but I still think it should work. I don't know which part of the equation is busted but I would like to find out so I can see where I can go with the kit.
The terms are pretty much this:
-I ship the kit to the person chosen along with a money order to pay for shipping back
-Once figured out what the problem is, told to me the diagnosis, and shipped back, I will send out a nice sampler of some choice detailing products (requests can surely be made)
I'm not sure how I will choose for someone to do this yet, but I guess just note your electronic background and what you plan on doing to diagnose.
Thanks  .
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I can help you out here if you could provide me more information. And you don't need to send me anything. If you want PM me with the following information.
1. Are both bulbs not lighting?
2. Hopefully you checked the inline fuse?
3. Do you have a multimeter?
4. Did you get a plug and play HID kit?
5. Are they for fogs or headlights?
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