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Old 11-29-03, 04:02   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs up Made the 9005 to 9006 conversion

Ok, well I'd thought about getting HID's or something to get more low-beam output from my car. Don't get me wrong, the stock low-beams are great. But I wanted a bit more. By the way, the high-beams are ridiculous on this car. It's like flipping the sun on.

Anyway, I decided to try SilverStars, but to get more light from them, I modified two 9005 bulbs to fit the 9006 socket. This only raises the wattage from 55 watts to 65 watts (9006's have a max of 60 watts in case there is some variance), so I don't think there will be too much current through the system. 9005's also put out 1700 lumens instead of the 1000 that 9006 bulbs put out. HID's put out about 3000 lumens and use about 35-40 watts (though when they first fire, the wattage is temporarily higher, like fluorescents).

Because I have projector beams, I think this is a safe upgrade and won't bother oncoming drivers. Very little light is projected up at drivers. Projector beams have a very well defined beam cutoff at about headlamp height. This means it can be very difficult to read street name signs on unlit roads. Almost none of the headlamp light gets up there. I have to flick the highs on to see them, which I can't do when traffic is oncoming.

I may or may not get HID's some time in the future. In the mean time, this is a cheap way to get an idea of what more light is like. HID projector beams have a different pattern, though. Since they have more light to work with, they cast it more evenly across the whole beam. Halogen projectors cast more light in the center and less to the sides since a halogen bulb doesn't have as much light to work with. So a switch to HIDs will put more light down on the road, but it won't change this pattern much. It won't be the even light of OEM HID's or of HID kits that include new projectors.

Here are my lamps stock (they are Sylvania 9006 Halogen Plus bulbs):



Here I put a 9005 SilverStar on the left side. Note the beam pattern has changed a bit. I rotated the bulb around to adjust this, but it was still a bit different (it's a different bulb afterall) than the stock pattern:



Here you can see the whole after effect. I had adjusted both bulbs at this point. Notice how bright or dark the wall is. These first three shots were taken in a closed garage with the overhead lights on. So the relative intensity of the beams caused the camera to expose the shot differently, which results in the wall being lighter or darker. This is a clue as to how much brighter the 9005's are, even though the photo doesn't make them look much brighter.



Here is a rather crappy shot where I backed the car up so you can see the actual cut-off of the beams. You won't get this with regular reflector beams, and I wouldn't try this if I didn't have projectors:



And lastly, here is a shot of the car with the high-beams on. Notice how much brighter they are, but also how much higher up they cast their light. They are awesome, and light up everything:



I'll let you know how I like it more long-term. On our trip back from vacation last night, it was on a lot of pitch-black roads with no lighting, and rainy. The low-beams are pretty good, and the central beams cast out a pretty long way. The high-beams light up the road practically as far as it goes. In fact, the dazzle back off of street signs is fairly intense. Good stuff... Even if I had HID's on the lows, the highs would still be helpful because of their superior beam pattern (though it is a pattern that would be incredibly blinding to oncoming traffic).

P.S. Jngrbrdman posted about how to convert your 9005 to fit a 9006 socket, but darned if I could find it. I instead did a google search for "9006 9005 convert". It isn't hard, I used a Black & Decker Wizard (like a dremel) and it was a cinch. But the bulb won't stop in place exactly right, since it depends on how much of the tab you trim off. So you have to finagle it a bit.
 
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Old 11-29-03, 05:14   #2 (permalink)
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Old 11-29-03, 05:30   #3 (permalink)
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Nice mod Aurora 40- I changed my bulbs from the Piaa Extreme Whites to the Silverstars last week and notice that my down-range vision increased. I'm running the 9005's now but my upgrade to the 9006's after seeing your's.
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I did the same thing myself before I got hids. I never had a problem with it myself but I didn't use the silverstars. Some people seem to have trouble with the silverstars around 6-7 months later they burn out. The ones that make it past that point don't seem to have any problems.

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I don't have projector beams but I still did the 9005 to 9006 conversion. I adjusted my lights slightly downward and no one has ever flashed me, even oncoming cop cars. Definitely a lot whiter light, the color output is very similar to true HIDs, but obviously not as bright. I borrowed my Dad's car this weekend when my alternator went out and his car has regular halogens and it made me realize how much better Silverstars are than regular bulbs. My Dad's car has H4s, so no conversion, but I'm going to let him know when it comes time to get new bulbs to get the Silverstars.

Aurora-thanks for the great write up and comparison pictures. Really nice job!
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Old 12-02-03, 02:22   #7 (permalink)
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I've done that conversion on my car and it does make a difference. I don't have projector lenses, but there was a difference.
With my old 9006 bulbs I could definitely see where the lights were hitting the road in bright spots on the road. But when I modified the 9005's to fit the 9006 socket, the road was all lit up. There was no more brighter spots, just light everywhere. The bulbs I have are the Phillip's Vision Plus bulbs and they are bright by themselves.
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Old 12-02-03, 05:22   #8 (permalink)
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'D'-would those Vision Plus bulbs be the European version? I understand the European bulbs have a much wider light pattern.
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Scott, usually the shape of the reflector or projector determine the beam pattern. But with reflectors, it may be more that the filament isn't in the same spot, or the fact that the end isn't capped or something that is causing the light to shift out from the center.

So far I'm quite pleased with my mod. The center beams are much brighter, and the rest of the fill in is a bit brighter as well. The two central beams are like two spotlights. The beam cutoff is still well defined and is lower than people's faces.

I think I will probably just stick with this. I imagine HID's would be a bit too much light in the center. It would be much brighter than OEM HID's because the light is concentrated in the central beams more with less light in the fill areas.

I don't know why my picts are all little red x's now... I'll check it out.
 
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I know this is a pretty old thread but I have a question and I don't want to start another thread asking something that is realated. Will the increase of 10 watts from the 9005 cause any damage to the 9006 harness or any other electrical problems? Thanks.
 
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No problems with the slight increase in wattage. I ran the converted bulbs in my car for a good 2 years before I sold the car.
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