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04-28-03, 07:46
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Brad B. is offline
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What would you do for a rattle?
For the past week I had this mind boggling rattle that drove me nuts! It sounded like a ball bearing that was loose in a metal tray. When I would accelorate it would roll. When I would brake it would roll. Hard corners it would roll. It absolutely sounded like metal on metal. This narrowed down things like stuff in the glove box, junk in the trunk, etc.
I thought the sound eminated from somewhere behind me or below the seats or console so I forced my wife to lay prone in the backseats, her feet hanging out the passenger window listening, while I drove chicanes in the neighborhoods reinacting the noise. She was not happy but carried on just shy of vomiting.
Finally, I removed the seat in my C4S and inserted a small stool in its place. We went out for another test drive. We switched places this time, my wife incredibly agreeing to drive the "bench" seat. With the help of an automotive stethascope I narrowed the rolling metallic noise to a ECU boxed area and a captive frame member below where the seat bolts in.
After returning to the garage and much more experimenting and searching we deduced that the nose came from a closed frame member directly below the ECU box under the seat. I drilled a 1/4 hole in the frame member and used magnets to no avail and finally used sticky grease on a wire and tiny long surgical tweezers to pull a fuse out of the hole I drilled. It seems that this fuse must have, at some point, fallen through the threaded bolt hole that holds the ECU to the floorboard. (on top of this frame member)That's the only explanation I can think of. Or it was put there by some German as a bad joke and finally got dislodged!
<img src="http://www.fototime.com/B710664C3A074CA/standard.jpg" border=0>
The ECU is on the left.
<img src="http://www.fototime.com/4A0182056EB4BA3/standard.jpg" border=0>
It was hard getting the fuse through the tiny hole. I ended up using sticky grease on wire to stand it upright and then surgical tweezers to pull it through.
<img src="http://www.fototime.com/65EB44350D39560/standard.jpg" border=0>
On the plus side I did a full interior clean afterwards. Carpet shampoo (EF), leather clean and dressing (ZAINO), dash dressing, 303, windows, Eagle1, Seals, Gummi Pflege. Spent over 6 hours just on that. Never did it so well. But with the interior gutted I had the opportunity!
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04-28-03, 07:51
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OMG!!!!!  Only you, Brad, would do all that to track down an interior rattle. 
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04-28-03, 08:07
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Brad,
Great job in finding the rattling culprit!
I hear you about any rattling in your car while driving. That drives me nuts.
The next time I have a rattle in my car, I know who I should call!
Cheers,
My Black 7 Series
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04-28-03, 09:00
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I've known several vw drivers who have torn their entire dash apart searching for 1 creak
good to know that we're not the only people who go to such extremes 
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04-28-03, 05:01
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04-28-03, 06:53
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If you think thats bad you should here my car. Its a 99 hatch GSR and there is so many annoying noises. Depends on weather also and I just leave radio on slightly so I don't hear those rattles.
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04-28-03, 07:49
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LOL I knew you were crazy.... but.... jeez!!
nice work finding it though....  :
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04-28-03, 08:43
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I'm just glad my wife was actually at my side when I pulled the culprit from the hole so I could say "SEE!, I told I am not hearing things!" If it was nothing at all and I put her through all this torture needlessly then I would be paying divorce lawyers fees by now!
She said I could get a job at Bentley or Rolls as a fanatical squeak and rattle tracer. I'm changing my name and packing my bags for England. Nigel Bloomquist here...Chief Noise Chaser. 
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04-28-03, 09:34
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Come on! Fhqwhgads!!
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Sane people just wear ear plugs.  Still... I gotta salute your persistance. Remind me to never get on your bad side. I get the feeling that you aren't happy till everything is right in the universe again after someone wrongs you. lol 
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04-28-03, 11:28
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Quote:
Originally posted by Infamous
I just leave radio on slightly so I don't hear those rattles.
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The tech at the dealer service department told me to do this. When complaneing about the infamous Mk4 Jetta/Golf seat and door sqeaks.
Eric
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04-29-03, 10:00
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I drove around for about a week with my front interior 70% stripped to try finding a rattle. After a valet who got in my car looked at me really funny about why I had no dash, radio, golve box, etc my GF finally made me put it all back.
I was never able to track down the rattle...
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04-29-03, 10:11
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I am glad you found the source of the noise, such things drive me crazy.
I also hope you cleaned and dressed the cables around the ECU, they looked very dull
Steven
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