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10-29-08, 05:58
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1969 Engine Uprgrade Suggestions
I have had a great running 1969 Pontiac LeMans Custom S for about a year now and am finaly ready to start throwing some work into her performance. I will be pulling the drive train to throw in a new trans (already have it) this winter when the car is off the road, and wanted to upgrade her performance while I have the car in pieces. Its a weekend driver so nothing real high end but what are the best suggestions for parts to upgrade for better performance to handle the 0-100mph speed range?
Thanks for the help!
-Steel
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10-29-08, 06:01
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Re: 1969 Engine Uprgrade Suggestions
2 names, Year one, and SLP.
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10-29-08, 06:15
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Re: 1969 Engine Uprgrade Suggestions
is it stock?
what tranny?
big block?
what are your performance goals?
budget?
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10-29-08, 06:26
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Re: 1969 Engine Uprgrade Suggestions
Your in good hands with BIG jim.
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10-29-08, 06:26
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Re: 1969 Engine Uprgrade Suggestions
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Originally Posted by MASKDMARVL
2 names, Year one, and SLP.
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I not sure if either of then are any help with this
slp does new cars
and year one does resto parts for popular cars
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10-29-08, 06:47
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Re: 1969 Engine Uprgrade Suggestions
Yes it is stock, I believe Pontiac didn't have specific big/small blocks like Chevy even though its all GM, but it is a 350, I picked up relativity new 3 speed trans so cheap it too good to refuse, but am keeping my eyes open for a 3 speed w/ overdrive (2 speed in her now). I also already have a dual exhaust (2" pipe) w/ flowmasters to put in. I also will not change the look of the car (other than wheels) for performance I would rather leave it stock if I have to, my thing is stock look but modified inside. My performance goals are for it to be real quick off the line up to highway speeds but I have no need to be flying around at 150mph.My budget, this is my only real expense I can put in 1000-1500 but that is pushing it.
What do you think?
Thanks
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10-29-08, 06:49
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Re: 1969 Engine Uprgrade Suggestions
Another thing, the 69 Lemans is, for the most part, the same as a 69 GTO.
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10-29-08, 07:01
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Re: 1969 Engine Uprgrade Suggestions
yes Pontiac used one basic size block for everything, with the exception of the later 265 and 301 low deck motors (as long as it is not one of them you will be ok)
so the tranny is an auto?
if so you need to do some thinking about what you want to do
I would start with a higher stall converter(but you will need to match it your cam and powerbandto get the most from it)
for that $ I would try for
stall converter
shift kit
cam
as much head work you can afford
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10-29-08, 07:01
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Re: 1969 Engine Uprgrade Suggestions
One thing that makes a good difference, and is the basis of any engine upgrade, is to make sure it is in a good state of tune to begin with. Change the plugs, wire, upgrade to a HEI distributer(less than $100), make sure the carb is in good condition and opperating as it should. Possibly invest in a leakdown test for all cylinders. then you can start improvements.
If you are handy changing your cam and lifters is a good saterday job, with spectacular results(by far the most bang for the buck), high ratio rockers are almost free HP, but be sure to match the cam to your expected goal, carb and drivability range.
IF you have a 2 barrel carb, chnaging the intake manifold and carb for a 4 barrel unit will do a world of good as well.
If you find that the base needs some work(low compression, loose bearings ect, you can look to your local race track for a good engine at a affordable price. If you have a local track that runs GM spec engines, many teams elec to change them every year, a new engine is around $3500, amny 1 season engins sell for around $1500, and once off the track will last for years if it was well maintained(look for a front running team, they usually keep things straight).
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10-29-08, 07:08
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Re: 1969 Engine Uprgrade Suggestions
If you want to be quick invest in the drive train. 200Hp is quick with 456 gears.
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10-29-08, 07:40
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Re: 1969 Engine Uprgrade Suggestions
The trans is an auto but I dont want to go playing with the guts of one of those. How much would it cause to have a trans built for what you were saying BigJim? If its a lot, and i could get by reasonably with a 3 speed or 3 speed w/ overdrive i would like to spend on a carb/intake/rockers/etc.
Speaking of engine parts like you were talking about Reparebrise, i replaced the rotor, cap, wires, plugs when i first got it because she didn't fire well would replacing the entire distributor make a noticeable difference over just those parts? I have been looking at a holley 750 cfm 4bbl carb but that requires a manifold to fit it the 4 (my manifold fits the 2bbl rochester on there now) how to i go about finding a manifold that will fit?
Thanks guys this is great!
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10-29-08, 07:46
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Re: 1969 Engine Uprgrade Suggestions
well the stall goes between the trans and engine so it not the "guts" of the trans
and a shift kit is a D.I.Y. if you can read and are not affrad to drop the pan
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