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[Holden_C04]

Actually, Canada separates the U.S. from Russia. Maybe if we weren't here to protect them, they'd be toast.

[integritydetail]

Originally Posted by Picus

Are we thinking of the same country? Canada, right? Take out your map and look north of the USA (I'm sure you know where that one is). North is up. Well, that is unless you're holding the map upside down. You'll know because the letters will look wrong. Canada is the really big country that isn't Russia or Australia. That Canada (the one that actually exists, not the one you've created in your mind) is pretty different from the one you're describing.

Oh, and if the U.S is what's keeping us from being attacked, who the heck is protecting Australia. Again, for the geographically challenged that's the big island in the bottom right of the map, not Greenland or Antarctica.

Picus: the first quote was about socialism vs. capitalism. It was a response to post #6. No reference to Canada intended. I'm not sure why you are being sarcastic about me knowing where Canada is. Sorry you took offense, I didn't mean to offend you.

I've only been to Canada once, so I can't say how it really is.

BTW: Why is everything more expensive in Canada? Is it to pay for the socialism...oops, I meant social-programs, sorry?

As far as map-reading goes. Australia is NOT directly south of the U.S.(its off the African Coast in the Southern Hemisphere), that would be Mexico and further south would be the South American continent. (unless YOU are holding your map upside-down)

One more thing, the comment about the U.S. keeping Canada from being overtaken was a joke, notice the "hehe" afterwards? Its not funny if you have to explain it, try and keep up, haha

[integritydetail]

Originally Posted by Holden_C04

Actually, Canada separates the U.S. from Russia. Maybe if we weren't here to protect them, they'd be toast.

Touche! something to ponder. Canada does have one of the most feared armies in the world...doesn't it?

[Holden_C04]

Originally Posted by integritydetail

Touche! something to ponder. Canada does have one of the most feared armies in the world...doesn't it?

Actually, surprisingly enough for my American friends we did and do. Here's a list for you:

1) Canada played an instrumental role in the Battle of the Atlantic. In particular, this meant the design, construction, and mass production of the Corvette which may have been responsible for the end of this battle. It also meant support and organization for the convoys which transited between Canada and the UK/Russia.

2) Sir Arthur General Currie's momentous victory at the Battle of Vimy Ridge. This one is probably not taught at U.S. schools' history classes.

In early 1917, a massive assault was planned with a French attack in the south and a British diversion at Arras. Here, the Canadian Corps were given the responsibility of assaulting and taking Vimy Ridge—the only significant height of land in northeastern France. Since Vimy Ridge guarded most of the German coal production, the capture of Vimy Ridge would provide the Allies with a great military and resource advantage over the Germans.

On April 9, 1917 the Canadians began their assault on Vimy Ridge. To reduce their casualties, the Canadian commanders created a plan where soldiers followed directly behind an artillery barrage (rolling barrage), a technique that was used in the Battle of the Somme. The area was simulated such that every man knew their role. In addition, more photographs were distributed to show where the men would attack. By the end of the day, all four Canadian forces fought as one distinct unit and swept Vimy Ridge.

3) During Operation Overlord (D-Day), Canadian troops landing at Juno Beach met the stiffest resistance from the Germany Wehrmacht, and yet, were the only Allied troops to meet every one of their objectives that day and penetrated far into German-held territory.

I'm coming back for more...

[Holden_C04]

On 27 October 1914, at Neuve Chapelle, France, and again on 31 January 1915, in Poland, the German army released gas shells against the enemy. In neither instance, however, was the gas assault effective. As a result, the German High Command temporarily lost interest in the use of poison gas.

The German army first used poison gas as an effective weapon of war in April of 1915. That spring the Germans wanted to mount limited offensives to keep the Allies at bay while German divisions concentrated their efforts on Russia in the east. The gas assault at Ypres was one of these attacks.

Although Allied High Commanders had received reports that Germany planned to use poisonous chlorine gas, which causes asphyxiation, as a weapon, it did nothing to warn the troops. With the correct wind conditions on 22 April, the Germans launched their combined gas and conventional assault at the Ypres salient (the ridge of land between the opposing trench systems). Bearing the brunt of the attack, French colonial troops, choking and disoriented due to the deadly new weapon, panicked and fled in the face of the advancing Germans.

Canadian troops, who formed part of the British front line at Ypres, escaped the initial assault. Thick greenish clouds of chlorine gas, however, soon drifted over Canadian positions. Lacking gas masks or other protection, the Canadians quickly discovered that a urine-drenched handkerchief placed over the mouth offered some protection against the deadly gas. Nevertheless, Canadian casualties totalled more than 6,000. Lieutenant-Colonel John McCrae's brigade lost half its men, including his best friend Alexis Helmer, which prompted him to write the poem, "In Flanders Fields." Dr. McCrae chose the poppy as a symbol of sacrifice in that battle, and it soon became a more general symbol of all Allied soldiers who had made the ultimate sacrifice.

Actually, the German command saw the gas attack as a sideshow to the artillery barrages and infantry advance of 22 April. Indeed, Germany did not take full advantage of the surprise the new weapon created: the gas attack had opened a four-mile gap on the Canadian left-flank.

After Ypres, the Germans used poison gas less often. Protective masks and clothing helped make the weapon less effective.

[Picus]

Originally Posted by integritydetail

Picus: the first quote was about socialism vs. capitalism. It was a response to post #6. No reference to Canada intended. I'm not sure why you are being sarcastic about me knowing where Canada is. Sorry you took offense, I didn't mean to offend you.

I've only been to Canada once, so I can't say how it really is.

BTW: Why is everything more expensive in Canada? Is it to pay for the socialism...oops, I meant social-programs, sorry?

As far as map-reading goes. Australia is NOT directly south of the U.S.(its off the African Coast in the Southern Hemisphere), that would be Mexico and further south would be the South American continent. (unless YOU are holding your map upside-down)

One more thing, the comment about the U.S. keeping Canada from being overtaken was a joke, notice the "hehe" afterwards? Its not funny if you have to explain it, try and keep up, haha

No offense taken, just about everything I put in these political discussions is tongue in cheek. Everything isn't more expensive here; it's probably just more expensive than TN.

When did I say Australia was directly south of the US?

[integritydetail]

Originally Posted by Holden_C04

On 27 October 1914, at Neuve Chapelle, France, and again on 31 January 1915, in Poland, the German army released gas shells against the enemy. In neither instance, however, was the gas assault effective. As a result, the German High Command temporarily lost interest in the use of poison gas.

The German army first used poison gas as an effective weapon of war in April of 1915. That spring the Germans wanted to mount limited offensives to keep the Allies at bay while German divisions concentrated their efforts on Russia in the east. The gas assault at Ypres was one of these attacks.

Although Allied High Commanders had received reports that Germany planned to use poisonous chlorine gas, which causes asphyxiation, as a weapon, it did nothing to warn the troops. With the correct wind conditions on 22 April, the Germans launched their combined gas and conventional assault at the Ypres salient (the ridge of land between the opposing trench systems). Bearing the brunt of the attack, French colonial troops, choking and disoriented due to the deadly new weapon, panicked and fled in the face of the advancing Germans.

Canadian troops, who formed part of the British front line at Ypres, escaped the initial assault. Thick greenish clouds of chlorine gas, however, soon drifted over Canadian positions. Lacking gas masks or other protection, the Canadians quickly discovered that a urine-drenched handkerchief placed over the mouth offered some protection against the deadly gas. Nevertheless, Canadian casualties totalled more than 6,000. Lieutenant-Colonel John McCrae's brigade lost half its men, including his best friend Alexis Helmer, which prompted him to write the poem, "In Flanders Fields." Dr. McCrae chose the poppy as a symbol of sacrifice in that battle, and it soon became a more general symbol of all Allied soldiers who had made the ultimate sacrifice.

Actually, the German command saw the gas attack as a sideshow to the artillery barrages and infantry advance of 22 April. Indeed, Germany did not take full advantage of the surprise the new weapon created: the gas attack had opened a four-mile gap on the Canadian left-flank.

After Ypres, the Germans used poison gas less often. Protective masks and clothing helped make the weapon less effective.

Soo....we wasted two A-bombs, Dang it! Because it looks like Canada had it wrapped up. Truman sure was dumb, hehe. I hope you know I'm only joking. This is fun though, keep 'em coming!

[Holden_C04]

Originally Posted by integritydetail

Soo....we wasted two A-bombs, Dang it! Because it looks like Canada had it wrapped up. Truman sure was dumb, hehe. I hope you know I'm only joking. This is fun though, keep 'em coming!

Haha. He sure did, because those A-bombs were dropped in World War Two (August 1945) and you quoted a story about World War One (1915).

[integritydetail]

Originally Posted by Picus

When did I say Australia was directly south of the US?

The way your post read, it looked like you were saying Canada to the north of the U.S. and Australia to the South. I knew what you meant I was just messin with ya.

[integritydetail]

Originally Posted by Holden_C04

Haha. He sure did, because those A-bombs were dropped in World War Two (August 1945) and you quoted a story about World War One (1915).

So you guys just left us hanging in WWII, whats up with that?

Man, you're making me look dumber than my wife does. I think I'll come up there fishing again and look around a little better, lol.

[Holden_C04]

Originally Posted by integritydetail

So you guys just left us hanging in WWII, whats up with that?

Man, you're making me look dumber than my wife does. I think I'll come up there fishing again and look around a little better, lol.

Haha, I just happen to be passionate about history...especially Canadian history.

There's some good fishing here. In BC, there's quite a few trout rivers with some massive catches and in Northern Ontario there's an awful lot of Walleye, Pike, and Muskie. Pick your poison.

[Frito Bandito]

Why can't we all just get along and bash Mexico?