Mainstream Media - Page 4

Setec Astronomy · 10-23-08, 06:50

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Originally Posted by MSOsr

"Working with veterans doesn't mean you adopt their opinions", sayeth Barrack Obama.

Yeah, I can see as a non-vet I fall into the substandard category along with the liberals, the blacks, the gays, and the NXT users. Why don't we call this thread what it is: bigotry.

The pilgrims came here because they didn't want to be hated for having different beliefs (or being different) than other people. The founding fathers tried to set up a framework that upheld that goal. We haven't come very far.

Setec Astronomy · 10-23-08, 07:11

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Originally Posted by III

The point that I'm trying to make is regardless of whether Joe has a point, why try and destroy this guy by saying things that have no weight? If you have issues with what he said about the 250, stick to that issue, and that issue alone. Don't bring up how his name really isn't Joe, he doesn't even have his plumbers license, etc, etc...

You're kidding, right? Doesn't he just become an actor (rather than the real person you make him out to be) if you change his name, his occupation, and his position? Why not call him Sam the guy who works for a contracting company who's asking if his boss will pay more taxes?

MSOsr · 10-23-08, 07:43

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Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy

Yeah, I can see as a non-vet I fall into the substandard category along with the liberals, the blacks, the gays, and the NXT users. Why don't we call this thread what it is: bigotry.

The pilgrims came here because they didn't want to be hated for having different beliefs (or being different) than other people. The founding fathers tried to set up a framework that upheld that goal. We haven't come very far.

I think that response is very rude. Other than possibly NXT users, I don't believe any of those are "substandard". My quote was Obama saying that just because he worked with terrorists doesn't mean he is one.

I was going to tell you that I enlisted in Dec. 1967, but they didn't have an opening in the electronics field. The Air Force made me wait until Apr. 1968, when they finally had an opening. I was only promised "electronics", not a particular job.

I didn't find out I was going to Chanute for instrument flight training school until after basic training.

When I completed school about a year later, I was sent to Moody AFB in Valdosta, GA. Although I spent a year learning electronics, when I got to Moody, they converted me to an instructor pilot. I spent the last 5 1/2 years of my duty there.

Mike (actually used Simonz as a kid)

III · 10-23-08, 07:48

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Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy

You're kidding, right? Doesn't he just become an actor (rather than the real person you make him out to be) if you change his name, his occupation, and his position? Why not call him Sam the guy who works for a contracting company who's asking if his boss will pay more taxes?

Look, with all due respect, I'm not going to go back and forth on this. Start a separate thread on this issue if you want to debate this particular subject. Let's try and focus on the main topic of this thread. Yes, I used Joe the plumber as an example of how the mainstream media is trying to destroy this guy, but this is just one of the many examples of how the mainstream media is moslty liberal and biased.

Picus · 10-23-08, 08:16

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Originally Posted by III

Sorry. I disagree. Fox might, and I use that word in the smallest sense, at times seem to be bias towards republicans, I'll give you that at least. However, on average FNC is more fair/balanced then any other mainstream media outlets like CNN, and MSNBC. Let the ratings speak for themselves. Why do you think FNC get the ratings that it does? Could it be they're more fair/balanced and show no bias?

I think they get the ratings because they are the only outlet that caters to the conservative, so they have 100% of that market. I guess we'll have to just disagree on that one.

Why exactly did you start this thread, to pat Fox News on the back?

Setec Astronomy · 10-23-08, 08:19

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Originally Posted by III

Look, with all due respect, I'm not going to go back and forth on this. Start a separate thread on this issue if you want to debate this particular subject. Let's try and focus on the main topic of this thread. Yes, I used Joe the plumber as an example of how the mainstream media is trying to destroy this guy, but this is just one of the many examples of how the mainstream media is moslty liberal and biased.

Oh, I get it, you don't like what I have to say, so you don't want me to post in your thread anymore. I thought that was the main topic of this thread, whether media was biased. Sounds like you're biased against me. You only want to hear what you want to hear, and if it's not what you want to hear, it's biased.

Eliot Ness · 10-23-08, 09:09

That's what I hate about politics; it's too easy, especially on a message board, to get into overly heated debates and take things the wrong way.

When I was in the hospital I had a very nice nurse who asked me about one of the candidates in the primary. Since I didn't think my answer would please her, and since she controlled my pain meds, I simply said I don't like to discuss politics. She then asked me about the other candidate that was running and again I took the 5th.

To the OP, sure it's biased, but I'm not going to beat a dead horse about the subject. Nothing I say is going to change anyone's mind and I hope other people aren't getting all the information they use to pick a candidate off a detailing message board.

III · 10-23-08, 10:48

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Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy

Oh, I get it, you don't like what I have to say, so you don't want me to post in your thread anymore. I thought that was the main topic of this thread, whether media was biased. Sounds like you're biased against me. You only want to hear what you want to hear, and if it's not what you want to hear, it's biased.

I told you I appreciate your comments and respect them on page 3. I didn't hear such words from you. I'm still waiting for you to start a new thread so people can talk about Joe the plumber and ONLY this issue. I'm biased? Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black to me.

III · 10-23-08, 10:49

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Originally Posted by Picus

Why exactly did you start this thread, to pat Fox News on the back?

Yeah, how did you guess? Not.

Spilchy · 10-23-08, 11:04

From the Pew Research Center's Project for Excellence in Journalism -

Study: McCain coverage mostly negative - Michael Calderone - Politico.com

MSOsr · 10-23-08, 03:46

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Originally Posted by Spilchy

From the Pew Research Center's Project for Excellence in Journalism -

Study: McCain coverage mostly negative - Michael Calderone - Politico.com

It's sad someone needs to point that out. Too bad the media requires a watchdog to call foul on them.

They're as bad as Congress!

Mike

Setec Astronomy · 10-23-08, 03:48

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Originally Posted by MSOsr

It's sad someone needs to point that out. Too bad the media requires a watchdog to call foul on them.

They're as bad as Congress!

Could it possibly be that the media coverage of McCain is negative because he's running a negative campaign?