Sarah Palin

[SamIam]

Originally Posted by qwertydude

Just one more thing to add is if anyone studies history is that war heroes make lousy leaders of nations. They're the first one's to declare martial law and the last one's to give up the power that that gives. Cesar, Napoleon, Genghis Khan, Hitler were once considered great war heroes of their people but what matters most is how they were remembered in history, a question W. answered "In history? We'll all be dead."

Invalid comparison. None of those named were American war heros. I don't believe we had any issues with Washington, Grant or Eisenhower when it came to a transfer of power. I know there were numerous other military leaders, but I believe the others had held other political office.

[Setec Astronomy]

Originally Posted by MSOsr

People who hang out with terrorists and America haters have traditionally made poor leaders of America also.

Which leaders were those?

[MSOsr]

Ask Obama.

Mike

[rwisejr]

Originally Posted by MSOsr

I prefer a president who can land an F-16 on a carrier over a computer guy [By the way, did you know that McCain can't use a keyboard because of his war injuries?].

Teaching Con law prepares you for nothing; I can tell you that over my 30 years of practicing law, if I've learned one thing, it is that the law changes depending on who is interpreting it. If Obama had been a student of Con law, he would have realized that warrantless searches, wiretapping and suspension of habeas corpus have all been done before and are legal under many sets of circumstances.

McCain has consistently campaigned against torture.

And why do people always say "Obama will do a better job/is more qualified than Palin"? Obama is running against McCain.

Mike (Simonize for the win!)

Now i'm laughing my tail off on this one MCain crashed 3 planes and if he wasn't an admirals son he would have never flown another plane after the first crash do your research.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rjstaaf]

Originally Posted by rwisejr

Now i'm laughing my tail off on this one MCain crashed 3 planes and if he wasn't an admirals son he would have never flown another plane after the first crash do your research.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If he wasn't an Admiral's son he never would have gotten into the Naval Academy much less a Pilot's slot. He graduated what, 4th from the bottom of his class. Those slots are reserved for those who graduate at the top of their class.

[rwisejr]

Originally Posted by rjstaaf

If he wasn't an Admiral's son he never would have gotten into the Naval Academy much less a Pilot's slot. He graduated what, 4th from the bottom of his class. Those slots are reserved for those who graduate at the top of their class.

So true and he has no clue about working hard for a living. Remember who his wife is ? Mrs Heinz Ketchup and you don't meet people like that in normal circles.

[Setec Astronomy]

Originally Posted by MSOsr

People who hang out with terrorists and America haters have traditionally made poor leaders of America also.

Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy

Which leaders were those?

Originally Posted by MSOsr

Ask Obama.

No, I'm asking you, which poor leaders have we had in the past (hence creating a tradition) who have hung out with terrorists and America haters?

Would that be Nixon? Who hung out with Communist Chinese leader Mao Tse-tung? Or would that be Reagan, who supported "freedom fighters" Osama bin Laden against the Soviets in Afghanistan, and Saddam Hussein in his war against Iran? I'm just trying to get some historical clarification.

[Setec Astronomy]

Originally Posted by rjstaaf

If he wasn't an Admiral's son he never would have gotten into the Naval Academy much less a Pilot's slot. He graduated what, 4th from the bottom of his class. Those slots are reserved for those who graduate at the top of their class.

Say it isn't so! Next you're going to tell me W. only got into Yale because his father went there...

[MSOsr]

Originally Posted by rwisejr

Now i'm laughing my tail off on this one MCain crashed 3 planes and if he wasn't an admirals son he would have never flown another plane after the first crash do your research.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Losing an aircraft" is not the same as "crashing" one. He had a crash during training; he had to eject from a plane that had "failure of an internal part"; his plane was one of the ones destroyed by rocket fire on the deck of the Forrestal; and he was shot down over Hanoi. There was an incident where he struck some power lines, but returned safely (which he wrote about in his book).

Do your research.

Let me guess....are you a veteran?

Mike

[rjstaaf]

Originally Posted by rwisejr

So true and he has no clue about working hard for a living. Remember who his wife is ? Mrs Heinz Ketchup and you don't meet people like that in normal circles.

Here is something I find telling. It was reported that the outfit Cindy McCain wore to the Republican National convention cost over $300,000. How can people like that claim their priority is to look out for the middle class? It makes me wonder what they consider the middle class????

Vanity Fair: vanityfair.com

I am sure I will get labeled a screaming liberal for my comments but let me say I have been a Republican as long as John McCain has been in Congress. This is the first time in my life that I have even considered voting Democrat.

[MSOsr]

Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy

Say it isn't so! Next you're going to tell me W. only got into Yale because his father went there...

He got in because his grades were better than Kerry's.

Mike

By the way, remember the great job the "nuke-ular scientist" did as President? Jimmy Carter graduated in the top 5% of his class from the Naval Academy, IIRC.

[Setec Astronomy]

Originally Posted by MSOsr

"Losing an aircraft" is not the same as "crashing" one.

Do your research.

The LA Times did this research a couple weeks ago:

"The 23-year-old junior lieutenant wasn't paying attention and erred in using "a power setting too low to maintain level flight in a turn," investigators concluded.

The crash was one of three early in McCain's aviation career in which his flying skills and judgment were faulted or questioned by Navy officials.

In his most serious lapse, McCain was "clowning" around in a Skyraider over southern Spain about December 1961 and flew into electrical wires, causing a blackout, according to McCain's own account as well as those of naval officers and enlistees aboard the carrier Intrepid. In another incident, in 1965, McCain crashed a T-2 trainer jet in Virginia."

But I guess that must be "liberal media" slant. They did note that his piloting skills improved later in his career, allowing him to be posted to the Forrestal in 'Nam.