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View Poll Results: Obama or McCain?
Obama 85 38.29%
McCain 118 53.15%
Neither 16 7.21%
Other 4 1.80%
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Old 10-07-08, 10:20   #85 (permalink)
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I just hope I don't have to hear McCain or Palin refer to themselves as a "couple of mavericks" anymore, or I might vomit. I don't dislike McCain, I am just getting sick of hearing that, like I am getting sick of the word "change" from the other side.
If I hadn't been sick, I would have been playing the debate drinking game . . .

Probably better that I wasn't. "Maverick" was a "drink" word, and alcohol poisoning doesn't look fun.

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Old 10-07-08, 10:22   #86 (permalink)
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Funny. I don't mind listening to Obama (enjoy his speaking style), but the other three could shut up for me, especially Palin. She is the most God awful politician running for high office that I've ever seen and I've seen a few in my day.
You mean "hackey mams" that can see Russia from their back yard aren't qualified enough for you?

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Old 10-07-08, 10:59   #87 (permalink)
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You mean "hackey mams" that can see Russia from their back yard aren't qualified enough for you?

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Bingo!

I visited my bank today, so I'm ready to be the Secretary of the Treasury!
 
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Old 10-07-08, 12:32   #88 (permalink)
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Pick the lesser of two evils.

McCain gets our votes in this family.

I just can't see voting my firearms rights away and voting in a border-line Marxist / pure socialist.
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Old 10-07-08, 01:26   #89 (permalink)
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The lawsuit over Obama was started by a lawyer sympathetic to Clinton. Here is one view of the birth certificate issue. In the end, if you are born here, you are born here. You do not ever lose that unless you revoke it as an adult. McCain was born in the Canal Zone. I think the same applies to anyone born to an illegal immigrant. If they move back to where they came from, the child born to an illegal can get US citizen if they want when they become an adult. It is called beachheading. How illegals can create legals....

Now, as we know about law and lawyers, politics can be involved in legal rulings but then we have the appeals, etc.

FactCheck.org: Born in the U.S.A.
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I just can't see voting my firearms rights away and voting in a border-line Marxist / pure socialist.
Considering the singing Supremes just affirmed your Constitutional "right to bear arms" on some level, this is a bit of a chicken little statement.

Personally, having been a city dweller my entire life, I'd like to see EVERY gun made illegal, heck even bows and arrows (because what yall are doing isn't really hunting), but I realize that is an entirely UNREALISTIC proposition in this country, however, I can't understand why even the lawful "hunter" or "home protector" thinks that automatic weapons should be legal or guns like AK47's and uzies (is that what they are even called???).

I mean... I don't see "Joe six pack" hunting bambi with an uzi, although I suppose it might be good to make swiss cheese out of all those "bad guys" hiding in the shadows.
 
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Old 10-08-08, 10:19   #91 (permalink)
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I posted this a few days ago under Republican or Democrat? Thought it might be of some interest here.


-- Breaking News ▬
US should withdraw from Chicago immediately!

●Body count: In the last six months 292 killed (murdered) in Chicago; more than the 221 killed in Iraq).
● State pension fund $44 Billion in debt; worst in country.
● Cook County ( Chicago ) sales tax 10.25%; highest in country.
● Chicago school system rates among the worst in country.

▬ Key government leaders in Illinois are all Democrats

● Sens. Barack Obama ● **** Durbin ● Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr.
● Gov. Rod Blogojevich ● House leader Mike Madigan
● Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan (daughter of Mike)
● Mayor Richard M. Daley (son of Mayor Richard J. Daley)
None have stepped up and taken responsibility; instead they're blaming each other.

(Can't blame Republicans, there aren't any! )

This is the political culture that Democratic Candidate for
President of the United States Barack Obama comes from in Illinois . . . and he wants to “fix†Washington politics?

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Neither have the Republicans who were in office prior. Oh, wait a minute.....one's in the clink because of the Licenses for Bribes Scandal....

Ex-governor Ryan ordered to prison - USATODAY.com

Furthermore, in reference to your republicans not being in office "joke"....

Senate GOP Members | Senate Republican Campaign Committee

Looks like quite a few Republicans are in the Senate. Let's take a look at the House

Members : Illinois House Republicans

Wanna try that again??
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Bingo!

I visited my bank today, so I'm ready to be the Secretary of the Treasury!
You should take Ben Bernake's job.....
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Old 10-08-08, 10:28   #93 (permalink)
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Uggg. The democrats did not cause this housing mess. Quit shifting the blame. Even if Clinton passed a bill to loosen the credit requirements thats didn't force any bank anywhere to give out such stupid loans. This mess is 100% the fault of bad leaderships and descion making of the banks. Not the Democrats Not the Repblicans. This is not a political issue (even though it's becoming one) this is bad business 101. A couple years ago we tossed CEO's that did this in a dark cell (the ones that didn't die before sentecing) Now we're handing over billions to help them out. Just because this is an election year dosen't make every single issue this country goes through a political one. You want to blame someone??? Blame those actually responsible.. Not the political agenda's of those trying to get elected.
That is exactly correct. It's not the President's job to change individual bank policy.
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There is a special that shows some of Obama's shady secret past and radical friends, acquaintences, and inspirations. It may be FOX news but the stuff is well researched and we have heard it before. You can go on Youtube to get the rest of the videos.


Obama was the 2nd highest receiver of Freddie Mac and Fannie May contributions/support in history and it was all Obama supporting Democrats who were the top receivers of Freddie and Fannie contributions. The economic problem9giving home loans and mortgages to low income people with bad credit) was proposed, originated and supported by mostly Democrats well before Bush got into office, something the media has ignored and Obama has somehow spun to again just blame Bush in the last 8 years. Research the start of this policy and who the originators were and its biggest supporters.

 
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I'll give you two words why any of what you just posted doesn't get any traction: Keating Five. It's the pot calling the kettle....er...black.
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I'll give you two words why any of what you just posted doesn't get any traction: Keating Five. It's the pot calling the kettle....er...black.
Except for the fact that... "Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings, with Cranston receiving a formal reprimand. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly."

Try again, that mud didn't stick.
 
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