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Re: Obama or McCain?
Regardless of which guy wins, my car will still be very shiny.
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10-28-08, 09:00
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Re: Obama or McCain?
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Funny and so prototypically "republican" it is too easy to respond to. By in large, the USA gives lower per capita payouts in welfare to most of it western allies, you know what the result is? Lower crime, higher literacy, stronger public education etc...
Sounds like our welfare recipients need to be more like our Western allies.
However, that only tells half the story. It's not just about welfare payment being succesful, it's about a whole host of issues and since I am not party driven, I can hit them all. It's about funding education, but also about rewarding good teachers (notice, both ideas take from both parties).
Washington DC schools' "success" blows that theory out of the water. America had better schools when God was allowed in school and parents cared about their children's homework, tests, etc. One of my daughters is a teacher and she can tell within the first month of class whose parents work with their kids and whose parents don't. If parents don't care, their kids probably won't either.
It's about helping others out, so they can help themselves out. It's about society helping out one another while still encouraging personal responsibility. It's about using the strongest economy the world has ever seen to make everyone as succesful as they can be as a group. So the cures are neither on the left or right, the answer is taking from both, where appropriate.
The goal is to provide equal opportunity, not guarantee equal results. This is where churches and charities come into play. It's not the time for government to hold a gun on successful people in order to give money to those that, for one reason or another, haven't earned it. I agree it is something about which all Americans should be sensitive; helping those that are in need. That's why Americans give more money to charity than any other nation.
Yes, that is why consumer spending indexes are so important in our economy.
Yes, but you actually have to read it, not Newt Gingrich's "talking points".
Or maybe the blind, the old, the wounded and the addicted. We should just cast them all into a pit and "breed" success into our society.
Those people aren't receiving welfare; they are receiving benefits to which they are entitled. Giving money earned by workers to those who do drugs all day, are physically capable of working but don't, high school dropouts that made no effort to better themselves, etc. is welfare.
LOL!!!
Yes, I can see in places like Sweden your statement is absolutely false. Let me ask you a serious question, Mr. 1948, how often have you travelled outside of the US and where? If you have (which I highly doubt), haven't you ever learned that sometimes others do things better than us?
I've been numerous times to England, Scotland, Italy, Canada, Mexico, Ireland, and France. I didn't see anything in those places that I would give up America over. Is Paris cool? No doubt. Are Parisians better off than Americans? No. The fact that you had to play the "Sweden card" shows your grasping effort to put down America's way of doing things. Would you live in Sweden instead of the US if you could?
Yes and here I am today, not harping on "how great I am" and how "lazy the others must be".
It wasn't meant to impress you, just to show you that you really don't have a firm grasp of some issues.
I've been admitted to practice before the US Supreme Court since 1986. Are you admitted to practice there? Since 1979, I've seen a number of decisions that don't make sense when you compare them to older decisions. It doesn't make one decision right and the other wrong.
If everyone agreed with your interpretation of legal matters, there would be no lawsuits and certainly no appeals. No other lawyer would have a job. You might reconsider your "opinions of what the law is."
Yes, because democratic socialism is SOOOOOOO scary. LOL
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Mike (member of the American Board of Trial Advocates and many other trial related legal organizations) Fully qualified in what I do, despite your thoughts to the contrary.
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10-28-08, 09:57
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Re: Obama or McCain?
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Yes I do agree with you. I have already voted. Those who have'nt will see how crazy it is going to be at the polls. Yes the racsim is huge in this world, but never more than at a criticle time as this. The real deep hidden feelings have sufaced about alot of the American Peoples thinking. I'm a born and raised Amerian. Not African American. A Educated Black Man living in America in Ohio. But racism has reared it's Ugly Head.
You know I have never heard a white person called a whie American. Why can't those of us who were born in the United States just be called Americans? Idid not come from Africa,nor did my parents. I AM AN AMERICAN TOO!
Have a Great Day All!
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I agree with you. You are American and that is what is.
However you are also the first person to bring race into this and you are the first person to say you are voting somebody because of their race, which is racist.
If a black person votes for Barrack because he is black, it is NO different then a white person voting for McCain because he is white. Yet you sound angry when you speak about white people that might do what YOU have ALREADY done. Pot-Kettle-White.
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10-28-08, 10:10
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Mike,
No real need to respond because you haven't added anything new, just the same recycled arguments. You obviously didn't understand what I was trying to say.
Specifically though... yes, I am admitted to the US Supreme Court. It's really no big deal. I filled out my application online, one of the partners here served as my sponsor and I hand delivered my applicaiton on a personal trip to DC. I'm a bit worried that you think that is a big deal. Now, if you tell me that you've ARGUED before the US Supreme Court, I'd be impressed (I've been before 2nd Circuit about 5 times, have at least 25 reported Appellate cases - State and two Court of Appeals decisions, New York's highest court). I've also worked on approximately 20 cases at the ICTY and am one of the attorneys who brokered a plea agreement for one of the leaders in Bosnia, since you wanted to compare resumes.
As for you being a member of the board of trial advocates... I'm not sure how they practice law in FL, but in NY, we fight for the rights of our clients. We fight against so called "tort reform" and the abrogation of civil rights. We certainly DO NOT advocate for the things you advocate for here. You'd better stay quiet, they might kick you out!!! LOL
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10-28-08, 10:23
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10-28-08, 10:41
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Sorry, I can't since I will be working a long day as a Poll Worker. About a 16 hour day for us. I do get paid though, $75.00!
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10-28-08, 10:44
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Re: Obama or McCain?
I have the day off, our College has chosen to observe Confederate Memorial Day (May 10) on Election Day so we don't have to use any leave time.
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10-28-08, 10:57
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Re: Obama or McCain?
The American Board of Trial Advocates is an invitation-only organization, made up of trial lawyers, both plaintiff and defense. We are dedicated to the protection of the right to trial by jury.
Its mission is here: American Board of Trial Advocates - About Us - Mission
I was not intending to compare resumes; I was only pointing out that contrary to your insinuations, I'm very well respected in what I do.
Mike
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10-28-08, 11:27
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Re: Obama or McCain?
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The American Board of Trial Advocates is an invitation-only organization, made up of trial lawyers, both plaintiff and defense. We are dedicated to the protection of the right to trial by jury.
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Wonderful! So when the "tort reformers" put caps on cases, abrogate more common law rights, what good will your "jury trial" do?
Let me ask you, do you support "tort reform"?
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10-28-08, 11:41
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Hooky??? I thought you said hockey! I'd be in for some hockey for sure!
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10-28-08, 11:47
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Time's a-wastin',speedy!
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Let me ask you, do you support "tort reform"?
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Ummmm . . .
Depends on the kind of reform you have in mind.
Tort
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Ummmm . . .
Depends on the kind of reform you have in mind.
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Trust me, I want "tort" to remain without any reform. Tort is perfect just as she is! LOL
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