Obama or McCain? - Page 21

User Name · 10-26-08, 09:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by calgarydetail

you already have... you have lost enough lives and money that it dosent matter how this was turns out. The americain people have lost

This is why I generally vote Conservative in Canada. Yall are a smart bunch as well (although admitedly I'm not a fan of Harper).

MSOsr · 10-26-08, 09:15

It's amazing Obama is still selling to the "great unwashed" that the Bush tax cuts were a bad idea....and saddles McCain for them (because McCain first criticized them). Every statistic shows the tax cuts raised a much greater amount of tax receipts for the government than the previous rates had raised, with nothing additional from the middle class.

Once again, the people are steered away from how much money a tax cut saved them and are instead focused on "who made the most money from the tax cut."

Most of you have received the email about the guys who together drank beer every week and who benefitted from the bar's price decrease. It eventually resulted in the group not being able to pay for their drinks, because the savings were not passed on to the group that paid the largest percentage of the bill.

In any event, if my tax bracket pays 70% of the total taxes, how can you complain when my bracket gets 10% of the money saved under a proposed tax cut?

Mike (was at both ends of "class envy" and hated both positions)

MSOsr · 10-26-08, 09:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by User Name

What does "win" mean to you? A proxy government in Iraq that further fuels the ire of the Muslim world? More dead Americans? I don't know how you are defining "win"?

Trickle down/supply side economics... long debunked as mythology. You need new material.

No, we should keep giving corporate welfare, I'm much rather my tax dollar go the the AIG execs who can bang hot chicks on a cruise (on my dime) rather than the single Mom, with no healthcare and three kids.

No, but when the bottom has no money, they don't buy goods, the don't use services and they don't put the fuel in our consumption driven economy. Bring up the bottom and you increase the top.

8 years of Bush has insured the American dream is only a fantasy. No need for most to even contemplate it for the next little while.

Dude, when I was born I lived in a house with 16 other family members, out of necessity. We never collected welfare or food stamps but we got a lot of help in a lot of other ways.

I'm not so self-righteous to sit here and tell you I did it all because of my "own effort". I did it because along the way I had great (under paid) teachers, counselors and clergy. I had a "support system" that I knew I could count on in a time of need. I've also gone from poor the rich and would hope my tax dollars would go to helping other make that move.

There are a lot of people who put a lot of their own effort into this land and don't have much to show for it, so spare me the sanctomonious "everyone else must be lazy" story.

What is your date of birth?

Mike

User Name · 10-27-08, 05:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSOsr

What is your date of birth?

Mike

1972.

Username, now awaiting post about "how little I've seen" compared to someone born in 1948.

TH0001 · 10-27-08, 06:34

The only thing I will add is that the last year of Clinton so a major downturn in our economy. Let's not rewrite history and say Bush inherited a booming economy.

Clinton had the internet boom which is why he (under the guidence of Republicans) balanced the budget.

Our economic situation is both Clinton (raising taxes), Bush (increasing spending) and our fault (making 35k a year and driving a Bimmer).

weekendwarrior · 10-27-08, 07:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by TH0001

and our fault (making 35k a year and driving a Bimmer).

But they've had some fantastic lease deals on the 3 series the past few years

Showroom Shine · 10-27-08, 07:55

The thing that scares most whites about OBama is not his financial plans, health care ideas, dealing with the war etc. What hinders people from voting for him is his race. This is the first time in history that I can vote for someone who looks like me. Mc Bush is going to do the samething his predeccesors did. Like I have said before you can root for your favorite team,and player, here it's the Buckeyes,and the Browns. Or any team for that matter, but how many of you would let a Black man eat at your table. The whole thing , ( The Election) is about RACE. All who do not admit this are lying! Blacks have never been judged on their character, or abilities. Only Our color. Most whites don't think we should be able to afford the same freedoms they do. Sarah Palin is a very attractive woman to me. Her race does not matter, but she is not qualified to be VP. Woman have come along way, and I applaud her. But VP, she is not even close to being ready at running this country. Big Joke!

Showroom Shine · 10-27-08, 08:03

WAKE UP ! YOU DO NOT HAVE A CLUE!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSOsr

It's amazing Obama is still selling to the "great unwashed" that the Bush tax cuts were a bad idea....and saddles McCain for them (because McCain first criticized them). Every statistic shows the tax cuts raised a much greater amount of tax receipts for the government than the previous rates had raised, with nothing additional from the middle class.

Once again, the people are steered away from how much money a tax cut saved them and are instead focused on "who made the most money from the tax cut."

Most of you have received the email about the guys who together drank beer every week and who benefitted from the bar's price decrease. It eventually resulted in the group not being able to pay for their drinks, because the savings were not passed on to the group that paid the largest percentage of the bill.

In any event, if my tax bracket pays 70% of the total taxes, how can you complain when my bracket gets 10% of the money saved under a proposed tax cut?

Mike (was at both ends of "class envy" and hated both positions)

Showroom Shine · 10-27-08, 08:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeWinLDS

McCain is real cool. Why wouldn't I want to vote for a fear and hate mongerer like this:
YouTube - McCain Defends His Campaign's Robocalls

Not to mention the fact that Palin doesn't know who Obama is, most likely due to the fact that she doesn't read any newspapers or magazines. Why wouldn't I want to vote for them?

Props for Fox News though. I would have never expected them to call McCain out on his bullcrap like they did. Well, maybe O'Reilly wouldn't have. McCain is getting pretty desperate.

Well, I take that back. If I was greedy and cared about money more than people, maybe I would vote for McCain. But then again, I'm not living in a mechanical society, nor am I a hermit.

I agree with You!

III · 10-27-08, 09:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Showroom Shine

What hinders people from voting for him is his race... but how many of you would let a Black man eat at your table. The whole thing , ( The Election) is about RACE.

The whole race thing could probably be a whole separate issue in itself.

I can honestly tell you 100% that I don't have a problem with an african american being president. It's that he's a democrat that's the problem for me, not his color.

I would have a black man or women eat at my table. Heck, I already have. About half of all my friends are blacks.

dave40co · 10-27-08, 09:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Showroom Shine

The thing that scares most whites about OBama is not his financial plans, health care ideas, dealing with the war etc. What hinders people from voting for him is his race. This is the first time in history that I can vote for someone who looks like me. Mc Bush is going to do the samething his predeccesors did. Like I have said before you can root for your favorite team,and player, here it's the Buckeyes,and the Browns. Or any team for that matter, but how many of you would let a Black man eat at your table. The whole thing , ( The Election) is about RACE. All who do not admit this are lying! Blacks have never been judged on their character, or abilities. Only Our color. Most whites don't think we should be able to afford the same freedoms they do. Sarah Palin is a very attractive woman to me. Her race does not matter, but she is not qualified to be VP. Woman have come along way, and I applaud her. But VP, she is not even close to being ready at running this country. Big Joke!

With all due respect, sir, I would not vote for Obama if he was white or green with pink polka dots. Race has nothing to do with my vote. It is about the issues. I would vote for J.C. Watts or Lynn Swan because they think like I do. Doesn't voting for someone because he is the same as you color make you a racist? Your point is that white people won't vote for him because he is black and that is racist. Just something to think about.....

calgarydetail · 10-27-08, 09:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by User Name

This is why I generally vote Conservative in Canada. Yall are a smart bunch as well (although admitedly I'm not a fan of Harper).

you nor the rest of the country, however he is better then dion... we got stuck with the lesser of two evils as well.... but then again the prime minister has diffrent powers and responsibiltys to the us president so it cant be compared to your current election