City Requires Mobile Detailers to Capture Run Off!

[weekendwarrior]

Originally Posted by Relaited

I do want the appropriate enforcement, and to level the playing field. A guy who comes in and details without a wash mat has a lower cost structure than I do.

Socialized Detailing. Now I have read it all.

[trig]

Leaving so soon Jim?

Don't you want to talk more about our "regulators?"

Maybe you could tell everyone about how your a member of the California Urban Water Conservation Council, and how you've spoken to the Municipal Water District of Orange County and the State of California Regional Water Quality Control spamming your Pronto Wash company and talking about how much water it saves, and how mobile detailers should have fines in place for not doing it your way. I find it funny that everyone here was right about you. You do have a single-sided opinion in what will be profitable for you. The only reason you are ECO friendly, is because when your done acting as a "player" with the regulators, you'll be racking in the dough! Don't hate the player, hate the game!

I'm listening.

Socialist.

[Dsoto87]

So there you have it guys. He doesn't care about the environment nor does he care about you as a detailer.

The only interests he has are money.

push the regulators to fine mobile detailers works out best for both parties.

The city gets money and at the same time he puts his competition out of business.

We all knew you weren't who you pretend to be. Just a dirty businessman deep down. You care nothing about runoff and how many species its killing. It just sounds good to tell people that. So I'm sure your gonna run to your regulator friends and show them our responses.

"Look they don't care about the enviroment!"

Captilism at its best.

Good luck with your prontowash.

I hope this is the last of your posting as you really have nothing to offer to us.

[Setec Astronomy]

Originally Posted by Relaited

I meet with a San Diego County City on Monday, I do not have any devious intentions. They are concerned that the Total Maximum Daily Loads as put out by the SWCB will create a finable offense as the City cannot just allow things to happen without proper controls.
Now, as they are introducing those controls, I advocate reasonable controls. Use a wash mat, No Rinse, Steam or waterless and best available technology as a best management practice.

Well, I wish them well. Here in NJ, about a dozen years ago, we weren't passing our Clean Air Act air quality standards. So even though we are one of the minority of states that does regular inspections, all of the state and private inspection stations, at an enormous cost, switched over to dynamometer emissions testing, so they could test just like the EPA, and get all those polluting cars fixed. Hundreds of private inspection stations (gas stations and tire places and car dealers) gave up doing inspection rather than spend the $100,000 or more to put in the new test equipment.

How did that work out? Well, the state tore out all the dynamometers, and now just check to see if your "check engine" light is on. Why? Because it turned out that taking the time to fail 100 or 1000 cars that are marginally over the emissions limit makes less difference than taking one car off the road that is grossly polluting. What's the easiest way to tell a gross polluter? By seeing if the car's OBDII system is TELLING them if something is wrong. Not that they are saying it's right for those 100 or 1000 cars to be slightly out of spec, just that it's more effective in the long run to zero in on the gross polluters.

Moral of the story? It's the Pareto principle, that 20% of the cars are going to cause 80% of the problems. Or in this case, IMO that most of the car-based contaminants in the ocean, lakes, and streams are going to come from the cars driving on the road, and not the small percentage of cars that are washed in the driveway or by mobile detailers.

[gofast908z]

Lame......

[Bostonsfavson]

Originally Posted by Dsoto87

Typical relaited post:



OP makes a thread asking about leather care.

Relaiteds response: well caring for your leather is nice and all but what about the contaminants that my drop from your wash rag! may I ask where that's going? I do water detailing. My method > your method.

OP: responds to others tips

Relaiteds response: no one has answered my question yet. You wait till I get my inspector buddies. They will show all of you. I make more money than all of you. I'm a business man. I am the future. How many cars do you clean? I make 12000 an hour....what about you? Go on cleaning your leather the "old way", while I keep water my contimants........... Your all idiots.


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..........Good point about being his own worst enemy.

Hahaha, love it. So, so true.

[Jakerooni]

If there's no money in cleaning cars tell me then how an average tunnel wash can pull in an easy $600,000/yr and then some??? I don't know about you but that's a good chunk of change by anyone's means if you ask me. I know I don't pull in anywhere near that amount. But I do what I love because I love doing it.

[camaroDan]

before you know it, we wont be able to fart in public without some sorta
collection cup.......Dang treehugging hippies.

[gofast908z]

Originally Posted by Jakerooni

If there's no money in cleaning cars tell me then how an average tunnel wash can pull in an easy $600,000/yr and then some??? I don't know about you but that's a good chunk of change by anyone's means if you ask me. I know I don't pull in anywhere near that amount. But I do what I love because I love doing it.

Source for your stats? Is that takehome $ or before rent, supplies, equipment, insurance, employee wages, taxes, and other operating expenses?

[Jakerooni]

Autolaundry mag. And I'm sure it's all gross. But still it's not chump change. I don;t see many well managed tunnel washes going out of business. In fact I see them with lines all the way around the drive when the sun is out. Might be a local thing but to say there's no money in washing cars is bull. There's actually a LOT of money in washing cars if you know how to market it.

Edit* Here's a projection quote for financials out of a coin op. Mind you tunnel washes make considerably more than this but it's just off hand of an idea.

Revenue Projections-Bays
• Studies find that it takes a population base of 1000-1500 people to support 1 selfserve
bay. ( A town of 5000 people could theoretically support a total of 5 self-serve
bays between all competitors.)
• At this population level the National Average is approximately * $1350 per bay, per
month of gross income for one self-serve bay. (This is an estimate average only,
incomes can and do vary.)
Revenue Projections-Vacuums
• The ideal number of vacuums to have is 1-1/2 vacuums per 1 bay of self-serve. (I.E.
a 3- bay wash should have 4-5 vacuums placed somewhere on the lot).
• National average of revenue per vacuum is approximately * $222 per vacuum per
month in gross revenue. (Incomes can and will vary.)
Revenue Projections-Vending
• National average of vending revenue is approximately * $347 per month gross
revenue based on offering at least 4 different vending products.

[Finish Line]

You guys don't know what you are talking about!!! Jim can do a complete detail for $29.00 and turn a HUGE profit!!! So, just be quiet because you are jealous!!! He does all that business, is green, makes one billion dollars AND...pulls chicks!!!

[gofast908z]

Originally Posted by Jakerooni

Autolaundry mag. And I'm sure it's all gross. But still it's not chump change. I don;t see many well managed tunnel washes going out of business. In fact I see them with lines all the way around the drive when the sun is out. Might be a local thing but to say there's no money in washing cars is bull. There's actually a LOT of money in washing cars if you know how to market it.

Edit* Here's a projection quote for financials out of a coin op. Mind you tunnel washes make considerably more than this but it's just off hand of an idea.

Revenue Projections-Bays
• Studies find that it takes a population base of 1000-1500 people to support 1 selfserve
bay. ( A town of 5000 people could theoretically support a total of 5 self-serve
bays between all competitors.)
• At this population level the National Average is approximately * $1350 per bay, per
month of gross income for one self-serve bay. (This is an estimate average only,
incomes can and do vary.)
Revenue Projections-Vacuums
• The ideal number of vacuums to have is 1-1/2 vacuums per 1 bay of self-serve. (I.E.
a 3- bay wash should have 4-5 vacuums placed somewhere on the lot).
• National average of revenue per vacuum is approximately * $222 per vacuum per
month in gross revenue. (Incomes can and will vary.)
Revenue Projections-Vending
• National average of vending revenue is approximately * $347 per month gross
revenue based on offering at least 4 different vending products.

Very interesting info Jake!