City Requires Mobile Detailers to Capture Run Off! - Page 10

shine · 04-21-09, 11:03

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Originally Posted by karburn

Most of these so-called environmental ordinances are just another way of implementing a tax. Get ready for more of this at all levels of government, as the new administration is dead set on getting into your life and your business as much as they can. I'm all for conserving water and avoiding unecessary polution, but I do not need a governmental gun to my head to do so.

I couldn't agree more.

Got Wax · 04-24-09, 05:40

this thread appears to have been a sore point. i just wanted to post that my daughter recently brought home a school paper that is distributed to the students (she attends in orange county). she and her cheerleading squad were planning to organize a car wash at one of the local supermarkets. the local prontowash owner found out about the car wash and took it the the local municipality and complained about how much pollutant would result. he then proceeded to market his service to the school so that he could provide wash service for the car wash. and, he wanted to charge the school from their proceeds for their charity wash.

because of the nature of the wash the city approved the girls charity. i'm just really surprise that someone would go to that extreme for his cause.

Setec Astronomy · 04-24-09, 05:46

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Originally Posted by Got Wax

because of the nature of the wash the city approved the girls charity. i'm just really surprise that someone would go to that extreme for his cause.

Ha ha, good one...but I don't know why you would be surprised after reading this thread.

Some of the newer members may not remember the thread from about 5 years ago when there was a political movement in some areas to try to ban washing your car in your driveway (it was targeted at homeowners, not mobile detailers as in this thread). Turns out the lobbyists pushing the politicians were from, you guessed it, the car wash industry.

Picus · 04-24-09, 05:49

For his cause maybe. For money, I am not surprised. That's what this is about.

Banacheq · 04-24-09, 09:49

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Originally Posted by Got Wax

this thread appears to have been a sore point. i just wanted to post that my daughter recently brought home a school paper that is distributed to the students (she attends in orange county). she and her cheerleading squad were planning to organize a car wash at one of the local supermarkets. the local prontowash owner found out about the car wash and took it the the local municipality and complained about how much pollutant would result. he then proceeded to market his service to the school so that he could provide wash service for the car wash. and, he wanted to charge the school from their proceeds for their charity wash.

because of the nature of the wash the city approved the girls charity. i'm just really surprise that someone would go to that extreme for his cause.

Since the OP is based in Orange County I wouldn't be surprised if he was directly involved. Based on his posts, it certainly sounds like his MO.

PaintPolisher · 04-24-09, 11:30

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Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy

Ha ha, good one...but I don't know why you would be surprised after reading this thread.

Some of the newer members may not remember the thread from about 5 years ago when there was a political movement in some areas to try to ban washing your car in your driveway (it was targeted at homeowners, not mobile detailers as in this thread). Turns out the lobbyists pushing the politicians were from, you guessed it, the car wash industry.

I am working on a white paper concerning this very issue here in Georgia.

The following legislation was not picked up this past session and I only found out about this car wash lobby push from my local city water department.

The car wash lobby has introduced legislation to continue the home car washing bans in our drought areas and expanding this ban for the rest of the state. People in drought areas are already programmed. Clever lobby maneuverings.

The car wash lobby wants to stop everybody [home car washing and mobile detailers] except themselves from washing cars.

I have not seen this proposed legislation paperwork and am only going on what I was told.

I have been researching information on the net that I can condense into a three or four page document to present to my water department contact who has agreed to help me present an opposing view point to the legislators this coming fall.

I am using ONR as my foundation base so any help you have please contact me through here or PM me and we can than exchange email and phone numbers.

al

Dsoto87 · 04-24-09, 11:49

Makes sense that car washes would want to ban all washing except in their facilities.

What do you need to know about onr? There's a wealth of information on here about it. I'm sure any questions you have of it can be answered.

PaintPolisher · 04-24-09, 12:22

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Originally Posted by Dsoto87

Makes sense that car washes would want to ban all washing except in their facilities.

What do you need to know about onr? There's a wealth of information on here about it. I'm sure any questions you have of it can be answered.

Sorry about not being clear on the help needed. Thoughts were going through my head but not being typed.

I display, sell and instruct others about ONR usage so this part is not an issue for me.

Plus I have Dr.G's help concerning his products.

My issue is more towards the area of what laws are in place around the country to limit our ability to wash our cars so I can present as many counterpoints as possible while making an easy to understand document.

For instance the lobby wants everybody to use large dollar containment mats or booms and obtain special discharge permits for disposal. Why? Because the normal homeowner is not going to invest just to wash their car. Some mobile detailers would have to invest but this is a part of doing business.

My simple yet effective answer to this cost factor and the containment issue using ONR and catching a couple of drops is and has been for the past four years to use doggie training pads. These pads hold a quart of water each and I line them around the outline of the car where drips could come off the car. Let the pads air dry and good to go on the next car. Problem solved. Would a normal home owner do this extra step I don’t know but it does present an opposing viewpoint and answer.

Setec Astronomy · 04-24-09, 05:04

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Originally Posted by PaintPolisher

My issue is more towards the area of what laws are in place around the country to limit our ability to wash our cars so I can present as many counterpoints as possible while making an easy to understand document.

Heck, that's easy, it's the federal Clean Water Act (Clean Water Act Module). Letting your car wash runoff go into a body of water or a storm drain is illegal, everywhere. The catch is that enforcement is delegated to local authorities, which have widely varying priorities.

Reliated · 04-24-09, 07:26

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PaintPolisher · 04-24-09, 07:33

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Originally Posted by Setec Astronomy

Heck, that's easy, it's the federal Clean Water Act (Clean Water Act Module). Letting your car wash runoff go into a body of water or a storm drain is illegal, everywhere. The catch is that enforcement is delegated to local authorities, which have widely varying priorities.

Thank you for taking the time from your valuable free time and responding with your answer and the link.

I see where my late night reading is going to be for the next couple of days or weeks.

Knowledge is power and I am so glad that I reached out, you have helped me immensely.

al