Target's "Eco" Line - Page 3

DavidB · 07-03-09, 05:31

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Originally Posted by DeanMachine

I find a lot of resistance and or hesitation when it comes to offering a waterless car washing. Then again, I was on that side at one point. Proof is in the puddin`!

Why tell people it's waterless?

Frankly, I don't think most customers care as long as their car looks great when it's finished. If I was in the biz, I'd be telling people I use "an EPA approved cleaning method that reduces water consumption and pollution."

Here in So. Cal., city managers are starting to talk about fines up to $10,000. Who will they be going after? Detailers, of course, but even more significantly home owners associations. So people who live in a community managed by an HOA can very likely expect a letter that says "No More Car Washing". Waterless becomes the only solution.

DeanMachine · 07-03-09, 05:44

[I use "an EPA approved cleaning method that reduces water consumption and pollution."]

ha ha!

I like that!
I will be using that description! Maybe some waterless detailers can chime in. (CAUTION: I am guilty of not using "search" to see if there is a thread already started on waterless counter-opposition).

DavidB · 07-03-09, 06:50

P.S., I think the proper term should be water[less].

DeanMachine · 07-03-09, 07:07

No doubt!

"I use a Less-water process on my details!"
I am getting some ONR here soon, so I will post my likes/dislikes/questions. I`ve seen a few how to vids including Scottwax`s. Looks like good stuff.

GoudyL · 07-03-09, 08:42

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Originally Posted by DavidB

I understand what you're saying, but perhaps the bigger point is being missed. So let me post my point of view, which is shared by most people in the waterless wash business.

IMHO the real water waster is people washing cars at home, and rinsing them off with hoses. Professional car washes (coin op, and automatic) with water reclaim use much less water to start with, and then recycle much of it.

Waterless washing has its place, but you have to look at the total cycle of consumables. For example the water used in washing the MF towels, that is used to do a no-rinse wash of a car.

For example of the most water saving technologies around is commercial dry cleaning, because of the solvent reclaim. You can wash around 5000lb of clothing with 1lb of perc, vs say 1lb of clothing per lb of water in a washing machine.

GoudyL · 07-03-09, 08:44

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Originally Posted by DavidB

So people who live in a community managed by an HOA can very likely expect a letter that says "No More Car Washing".

HOA's are completely fascist, anyone who lives in such an area deserves the inconvenience.

DeanMachine · 07-03-09, 10:04

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Originally Posted by GoudyL

HOA's are completely fascist, anyone who lives in such an area deserves the inconvenience.

An offspring to Big Brother in my opinion, but to each their own and why I don`t live in one.

AKOZ · 07-04-09, 08:45

Well for the water conscience or not, there is a bill Senate Bill 787 coming to the floor really soon to stomp on our Constitutional Rights yst again. This bill is bad all around. This will give the Fed control over all water. Be it man made or natural lakes, ponds, streams etc.. Doesn't matter if it is on private land or public. It seems to also include and underground waterways under your property. Get calling your Senators and tell them not to vote this bill. We lost enough rights to property and choice. This can affect everything from farming to leisure to utility need. Alot of the excuses for this and other bills in this Nation is bull. I'm not saying we don't have our share of offenders her but, most people and companies are being environmentally conscious.

Sorry for the rant and long post.

DavidB · 07-06-09, 06:01

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Originally Posted by GoudyL

HOA's are completely fascist, anyone who lives in such an area deserves the inconvenience.

I'll be sure to pass your thoughts on to my HOA at the next meeting.

Texas Shine · 10-13-09, 10:10

Correct in saying that clients/customers need not really know that you are going waterless, unless they ask. I the product you are using is truly STATE OF THE ART, and WILL deliver results similar to ONR and use ZERO water? why not try and explain that to your 'new group of friends' (all of the new clients you will attract)