Optimum Polish / Compound Discussion. - Page 2

Bence · 10-26-07, 03:53

mystickid, I'd suggest that examine your needs exactly. Then use OP to see what capabilities does it have, use it with finessing/polishing/cutting/wool pads and then decide. I'd recommend you to get all three, but OHC will be fine when you skip the OC.

It is like Menzerna's 106FF/85RE5/85RD. All will finish exceptionally, but the actual needs and surfaces dictate.

poyo · 10-26-07, 03:59

Bence, thanks for the clarification on the M80.

Optimum Hyper Compound mixed with Optimum Compound? Interesting subject! How's the mix ratio? 1 part OHC : 1 part OP?

Since you have the same machine I have, have you used a wool pad with this machine to buff out major paint defects? How was the turnout? Were you using OP / OC / OHC? I suppose a follow - up with a soft polishing pad and OP right?

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Originally Posted by Bence

M80 contains the "trade secret polishing oils" which can be interpreted as light concealers.

Optimum won't fill and yes, you can tune your approach and product aggressivity with the appropriate pads. From finessing pad to wool, Optimum polish works exceptionally well with every imaginable combination.

However, I'd rather recommend you the Hyper instead of the regular compound, because:
1.) You can use the normal polish with a stiff orange foam; givin it pretty good cut
2.) You can make Hyper less aggressive by mixing it with OP on the pad, so the regular compound is maybe obsolete for you
3.) Hyper is not that aggressive to be dangerous - especially with the PEX270 AE, which can finish even the more aggressive polishes to a wonderful LSP-ready level. I have this machine too and I love it!

poyo · 10-26-07, 04:10

Can you really use these Optimum Polish / Compound / Hyper Compound under the hot sun? Malaysia is HOT! Very2 hot, afternoons temerature can reach 38 degrees Celcius!

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Originally Posted by Scottwax

Same here. Once you realize you don't have to use much product to get the best results, Optimum's polishes/compounds are pretty much goof proof.

I still keep Meguiars on hand for single stage paint though, still haven't found anything that works better.

mikebai1990 · 10-26-07, 12:25

Yes, Optimum polishes are known for their ability to work well under heat and direct sun.

fishbonezken · 10-26-07, 01:24

How does Optimum Polish compare to Menzerna's 106FF when used as a finishing polish?

Bence · 10-26-07, 01:29

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Originally Posted by poyo

Bence, thanks for the clarification on the M80.

Optimum Hyper Compound mixed with Optimum Compound? Interesting subject! How's the mix ratio? 1 part OHC : 1 part OP?

Since you have the same machine I have, have you used a wool pad with this machine to buff out major paint defects? How was the turnout? Were you using OP / OC / OHC? I suppose a follow - up with a soft polishing pad and OP right?

Poyo, I haven't tried the OP with wool on the PEX. I use my wools on a rotary. I have used however the white Menzerna pads (very aggressive and stiff foams) with it and it works flawlessly.

The genius of the PEX is the very high speed, and on 12.000 OPMs it will finish down LSP-ready with an orange pad.

Scottwax · 10-26-07, 05:39

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Originally Posted by fishbonezken

How does Optimum Polish compare to Menzerna's 106FF when used as a finishing polish?

106 has the edge in clarity, OP in depth.

wannafbody · 10-26-07, 05:42

The only way I can get decent cut from OC (old OHC) is to use a wool pad with a rotary. My experience is that OC leaves a film behind and you need more than IPA to remove it.

fishbonezken · 10-26-07, 08:34

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Originally Posted by Scottwax

106 has the edge in clarity, OP in depth.

thanks Scott!

MattPersman · 10-27-07, 05:54

I have been using optimum (Polish and Compound) a little here and there. I am an inexperienced user. my question is what is the point of the LONG work time? how can you tell it is worked in all the way and not too much. and what is the average time I should work it? I may have follow up questions.

thanks

p.s. I also have Four Star HCC that I got recently from Danase and man that has some bite, but as mentioned I never had the Opt HC to compare.

rydawg · 10-27-07, 06:04

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Originally Posted by wannafbody

The only way I can get decent cut from OC (old OHC) is to use a wool pad with a rotary. My experience is that OC leaves a film behind and you need more than IPA to remove it.

I have the same experience. I am more worried by the thick film left behind. I have the older version also and have not found any need to buy the newer one since I have tons of correction polishes.

Usually when a correction compound/polish leaves a finish with depth like OC it means there is some type of film left behind. How long it lasts? Will it interfere with longevity of LSP?

Would I trust it on a $500 prep job? NO too risky. I look for clean and clear with tons of clarity with nothing left behind. I choose which lsp in what I am looking to give depth, even more clarity, gloss, radiant glow, etc...

Any professionals have any insight on this?