*NEW* Water as lube with this clay product - Page 2

Bence · 07-05-08, 03:59

Depends on the actual clay. Some clays become mushy because of the soapy water. Soapy water is definitely good, but I'm using my foamgun to clay instead of a sprayer.

fishbonezken · 07-06-08, 06:34

when using soapy water, should it be a weak or strong soapy solution?
Sometimes I tried using alot of soap but the clay glides too freely over the surface.

What about using water only for more 'bite' from the clay?

charger17 · 07-07-08, 05:59

The use of water as a lube is nothing new. When clays first came over from Japan using water was the recommended technique. Then the detailing companies realised that they could push a dedicated lube so before you know it everyone thinks you have to use a lube or you'll marr the paint.

Some clays are more resistant to detergent than others, so with some clays a wash solution may well cause the bar to break down and fall apart

07e90 · 07-07-08, 06:35

I think it's hard to beat ONR as a clay lube, it's cheap and works well.

KnuckleBuckett · 07-07-08, 08:09

I cannot see how anything could better ONR as a lube. Stuff is simply amazing.

SuperBee364 · 07-07-08, 08:57

The maroon bottle Meguiars detailer that you can buy at the local car parts store is still my favorite clay lube, although it seems to be getting harder to find. The maroon bottle is also one of my favorite spray bottles. I keep them for other products after the QD is gone. It has a very uniform, tight spray pattern.

EisenHulk · 07-07-08, 08:58

Interesting. I have a bottle of this I haven't used in ages. I'll have to break it out again. Thanks, Bee.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperBee364

The maroon bottle Meguiars detailer that you can buy at the local car parts store is still my favorite clay lube, although it seems to be getting harder to find. The maroon bottle is also one of my favorite spray bottles. I keep them for other products after the QD is gone. It has a very uniform, tight spray pattern.

SilvaBimma · 07-07-08, 09:04

Water works good for the right elastic type clays, if you're buying a specific clay lubricant then you're getting ripped off. Plenty of Professionals can just use ONR or regular car soap to clay.

SuperBee364 · 07-07-08, 09:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilvaBimma

Water works good for the right elastic type clays, if you're buying a specific clay lubricant then you're getting ripped off. Plenty of Professionals can just use ONR or regular car soap to clay.

Hmm.. Don't know that I agree with that. If the car is going to be polished after claying, then you're right; it just doesn't matter what lube or clay you use as long as the contamination is removed. However, if the car is *not* going to be polished afterward, then using the correct lube/clay combination is necessary to reduce clay induced marring to the minimum possible. On soft paints, the Sonus fine green clay and the maroon bottle Megs QD is a great combination. There's lots of other good combos, too, of course.

EisenHulk · 07-07-08, 10:05

I've been using ONR as my clay lube for a while now, but I may try water with my yellow clay (Which is GREAT stuff, IMO).

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilvaBimma

Water works good for the right elastic type clays, if you're buying a specific clay lubricant then you're getting ripped off. Plenty of Professionals can just use ONR or regular car soap to clay.

SilvaBimma · 07-07-08, 08:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by EisenHulk

I've been using ONR as my clay lube for a while now, but I may try water with my yellow clay (Which is GREAT stuff, IMO).

During my training I used water with the yellow Erazer clay and didn't notice any difference. I've only used Elastic clay, so therefore I haven't had much experience with crappy Clay Magic/Plastic clay.

Yes I can see how certain soft paints might need some more care, however in general when someone tries to give this idea that clay lube is an "essential" product I tend to laugh. Any cheap QD/ONR/soap mix will work.