Menzerna IP & Halogram HELP! (pic)

Intercooled · 04-06-05, 05:17

I'm finally trying to get rid of my body shop swirls. I tried IP with a PC and a white pad with not much improvement. I'm currently on IP with an LC orange pad. My paint is Clear coat black. (3 years old, garage queen)
If you look close at the pic you can see a line down the center of the door. To the right is the result of IP w/Orange pad on about 5 1/2 speed. On the left is untouched swirling and halograming. The orange pad is taking out the marks but I can see kind od where I've been with PC, Is this OK? I assume the FP will clear it all uo.
Is the the hazing from the IP normal?
Am I on the right track or should I go to a yellow pad?
( its not the greatest pic I hope you all can see what I'm talking about)
Thanks
Mike

ZaneO · 04-06-05, 05:29

Wow...it looks like you aren't working the polish long enough. I get VERY little hazing with IP and an orange pad.

A yellow pad will only create more micro-marring.

01bluecls · 04-06-05, 05:34

The pic (right side) shows a possibility of a few things..

1. Too much product used.
2. Not working the product in enough (moving too fast)
3. Maybe not enough priming of pad or product being used.

More then likely you are probably using too much product and not working the polish in long enough.

I used Ip with a Orange LC pad and got VERY VERY little hazing. FPII will clear up any hazing left from IP.

Burlyq · 04-06-05, 05:37

Hazing with IP is normal on black cars but most other colors get very little hazing, and FPII should clear it all up and set that mirror shine. I use rotary with menzerna and have heard that best results come with that machine.

Intercooled · 04-06-05, 05:39

Well I'm using little product. I think I might be moveing to fast. I'l try and move slower and see if it improves. I squirt a tiny bit of Z6 on the pad every so often also.

Intercooled · 04-06-05, 05:40

Now, When I'm done with IP and the orange pad should I use FP with the white or grey?

Burlyq · 04-06-05, 05:44

I like finsihing pad with FPII. Try it first on one panel then decide, if the finishing pad isn't correcting your hologramming I'm pretty sure the white will. But since I always use rotary with this product I'm not 100% sure. Do you know anybody with a rotary you can borrow?

ZaneO · 04-06-05, 06:20

I use a polishing pad with FP when I am following IP.

Intercooled · 04-06-05, 06:26

I just got back from the garage. I moved the PC much slower, still have hazing but my lines are gone and I'm removing more swirls and marks.I also lowered the speed to 4.5 I think I'm on the right track now. Thanks guys!!
I just have to be more patient.
I fooled around with a section of FPII and it did remove the hazeing.

FalconGuy · 04-06-05, 06:40

Glad you got good advice and corrected. I have been there myself in almost the same situation. Those first few minutes when you think you just did damage to that which you have been protecting like a madman can be very stressfull.

I wonder how many people would try to detail before Autotopia and have a bad experience and without the chance to get great advice just give up or do further damage.

Intercooled · 04-06-05, 06:52

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Originally posted by FalconGuy
Glad you got good advice and corrected. I have been there myself in almost the same situation. Those first few minutes when you think you just did damage to that which you have been protecting like a madman can be very stressfull.

I wonder how many people would try to detail before Autotopia and have a bad experience and without the chance to get great advice just give up or do further damage.

Tell me about it! I wasn't 100% sure that I was following the right path. I grabbed my camera took a quick shot and made a quick post and got the answers I was looking for within minutes!
This place and the people here are so valueable!

ZaneO · 04-06-05, 07:15

I actually increase the PC speed with IP...generally 5-6 and work the area slowly. Don't know if that will help you or not.