#16 and CMW in a head to head competition

[Scottwax]

I had two identical Escalades this week. Both 2003 standard versions and both were pearl. One was a full detail and the other a wash/polish/wax job. Both were in excellent condition and I see them regularly (one each week, the other every two weeks) and am normally the only one who washes them.

I prepped both the same exact way, QEW wash and polished both with Poorboy's Polish w/carnauba using the Cyclo and green polishing pads. On one, I topped with #16, the other with Carnauba Moose.

First impressions:

Both products seem to work best applying and removing a section at a time. #16 is more clear and wet, CMW deepens the color slightly and seems a bit richer looking-even on a horribly orange peeled factory paint. Personally, I like the look of CMW a bit more. Seems to have more depth, even on light colors. Both are reasonably slick, decent for carnaubas but nothing like Wolfgang or UPP, of course.

Anyway, this really isn't about appearance since both look nice and both owners were very happy with how their vehicles looked. What I am interested in is the durability of the products. I have had good luck with CMW and #16 is pretty solid in that department too. Both get washed with QEW which is a wax friendly wash, so neither gets an unfair advantage.

Scorecard:

Ease of use-even
Appearance-slight edge to CMW
Slickness-even
Durability-to be determined.

Oh yeah, I should have pics by late this week. Don't expect to see much of a difference, it isn't huge so it probably won't show on the pics.

[JDookie]

Doesn't CMW have cleaners in it? Would this have any effect on why it looked better than #16?

[Scottwax]

Originally posted by JDookie
Doesn't CMW have cleaners in it? Would this have any effect on why it looked better than #16?

CMW is a pure wax. The only cleaning properties it may have are the solvent carriers in it. I polished both exactly the same way.

I'm not saying you would necessarily think CMW looks better, but to my eye it does. Again, the difference isn't huge, just a slightly deeper color and more depth.

[JDookie]

Actually, I'm just realizing something. You said Carnauba Moose Wax. Is that different than just regular Moose Wax?

[MattZ28]

Originally posted by JDookie
Actually, I'm just realizing something. You said Carnauba Moose Wax. Is that different than just regular Moose Wax?

Moose Wax = strong cleaner wax
Carnauba Moose Wax = pure wax

[Scottwax]

Originally posted by JDookie
Actually, I'm just realizing something. You said Carnauba Moose Wax. Is that different than just regular Moose Wax?

Yes, and that is exactly the reason Carnauba Moose Wax is a horrible name. Too easy to confuse. It should have been called Clearkote Carnauba or something similar. I guess Mr. Glass wanted to stick with the Moose theme.

[John Styrnol]

I'm curious to the durability of CMW, since the person's car I did washed it off, only 2 weeks in.

[paco]

2-weeks. Wow that is short. Even S100/P21S lasts longer than that.

What did the person wash the car with and how many times? I doubt highly that CMW would only have a couple of weeks of durability; if that was the case, very few people here would ever use it.

Paco

[a.k.a. Patrick]

Looking forward to durability news Scott, as always, much appreciated info....

[Accumulator]

ScottWAx- Sounds like a good comparo! One of these days you oughta try using the Cyclo with finishing pads to apply the wax. I just love doing #16 with that thing. It's not like you'll save any time, but it just seems to work a little differently by machine.

[MattZ28]

Originally posted by John Styrnol
I'm curious to the durability of CMW, since the person's car I did washed it off, only 2 weeks in.

Don't use beading as a gauge for durability. CMW does not bead very well at all...in fact, its sheeting sorta reminds me of EX/EX-P.

[G35stilez]

Hmm, Scott...very interesting

I have CMW, but no #16...I'll have to give it a shot on my dad's Caddy...And yes, the OP is yucky!