Black Wow issues

[skitelluride531]

Originally Posted by emmanuelv

Yeah, I noticed that BW has his fanboys, and you are obviously one

It might be interresting to *honestly* ask yourself why he was banned, and why the 3 most succesfull UK shops are removing it from their websites. Might be that it is not selling well at all.

Contacting a company and spending time for a so-so detailing product? I've better things to do with my time. I will finish my BW bottle on severely fadedbumpers (it works nice to bring back black, altough not for long) and simply will neither buy a second bottle, nor recommend it, that's all.

This BW saga reminds me of Polycharger. Also a lot of HYPE about this so-called miraculous enhancer... now given for free with orders, and gracefully dying. Hype makes quick money -- only once.

I'm not going to waste my time with your nonsense anymore. I thing the previous two posters summed it up fairly well.

Good day to you.

[KnuckleBuckett]

BW definately has it's place in my arsenal (for now), but it takes practice to use correctly. I am constantly amazed at how little it takes and how much of a pain in the butt it is to apply. that said, it really works well when applied correctly to the correct surfaces. It is a very niche product.

[skitelluride531]

I think Richard honestly says it best himself. This is his quote from the MINI forum:

(I suspect I'll get banned for posting this ...but so be it).

MINI COOPER :: North American Motoring - WOW - disappointing!

This has been a most interesting thread. There is a funny thing I've discovered about people who don't like BW (and have the know it all attitude).

They usually fit the following
1.) People who think they know everything so they don't read the instructions.
2.) People who don't accept advice because they know everything
3.) People who try to justify their credibility because they are yada yada yada and unfortunately still don't know anything.
4.) People who just like to be trolls.....

My response is usually this:

Did you try emailing, IMing, Skyping, PMing me, calling me on my Toll Free number to ask me about the product? Maybe I could have helped you before you decided that the product was no good? I would have even offered you your money back if you didn't like the product.

So let me ask you, because of your vast knowledge and credibility as a judge of classic cars--which by the way--most classics have VERY little plastic on them if they are true classics.....

What makes a good trim product? Durability? Looks? Or ease of application?
As a judge, do you even care if a person put on a product on their prized car because it was easy to apply? How would you know?

If BW was streaking, it comes down to only a few possibilities.

1.) You applied way too much product
2.) You didn't properly clean and prep the plastic before applying BW, and that prevented BW from being absorbed.
3.) What applicator did you use? A rag?

Please elaborate on your process so that we can learn from your expertise. Pictures would be helpful as well.

[s-one]

Wow, sorry that the OP had to go through all that. I just got some of the BW stuff friday for the first time and I have yet to apply so I'm reading this thread with a careful eye. So when BW is applied sparingly and buffed off, does it still stay greasy or does it dry up so dirt doesn't stick to it?

[Alan W]

Originally Posted by s-one

So when BW is applied sparingly and buffed off, does it still stay greasy or does it dry up so dirt doesn't stick to it?

BW should dry to the touch within a couple of minutes when correctly applied and buffed. This assumes proper preparation of the trim and removal of any previous dressing beforehand. Dirt will only stick to it if too much product is applied and it stays sticky rather than drying.

Less is definitely more when it comes to BW!

[s-one]

Thanks Alan!

[Alan W]

Originally Posted by s-one

Thanks Alan!

No problem!

As an aside I'd mention that I've never prescribed to the idea of using BW before washing your car. I can see Richard's theory in suggesting this because any BW on the paint can then be subsequently washed off. However, now that the BW trim card is supplied with the product there shouldn't be any accidents when applying BW and I much prefer to detail my car after it's been washed.

[KnuckleBuckett]

Great post Skite!!

[ptaylor_9849]

Less is more. That's why I suggest not using any.

[SuperBee364]

Originally Posted by emmanuelv

I have definitively NOT been impressed by WOW, and I now really feel robbed by all the HYPE surrounding it.

I found it so greasy that is is difficult to apply, the microfiber used to buff it can be thrown in the dustbin since it cannot be recovered, and if you let some of it on the paintwork, you'll need strong washing to remove it.

This was about use, let's talk durability. I hoped that it would stay longer than either Autoglym Bumper Care or CG New Look Trim Gel (one third of the price, btw). Well, no. It streaks out partially, even if I applied it on perfectly-degreased trims.

People, stop the HYPE about this product. Competition exists, is easier to manipulate, gives the same look and lasts longer, and is cheaper.

Originally Posted by emmanuelv

Yeah, I noticed that BW has his fanboys, and you are obviously one

It might be interresting to *honestly* ask yourself why he was banned, and why the 3 most succesfull UK shops are removing it from their websites. Might be that it is not selling well at all.

Contacting a company and spending time for a so-so detailing product? I've better things to do with my time. I will finish my BW bottle on severely fadedbumpers (it works nice to bring back black, altough not for long) and simply will neither buy a second bottle, nor recommend it, that's all.

This BW saga reminds me of Polycharger. Also a lot of HYPE about this so-called miraculous enhancer... now given for free with orders, and gracefully dying. Hype makes quick money -- only once.

Seriously uncalled for. Not even worth the effort to type out any more of a response.

[Holden_C04]

Originally Posted by skitelluride531

I think Richard honestly says it best himself. This is his quote from the MINI forum:

(I suspect I'll get banned for posting this ...but so be it).

MINI COOPER :: North American Motoring - WOW - disappointing!

Why would you think you would be banned? I can't think of a single poster on Autopia being banned for anything other than rudeness, spam, and other rule infringements. No one who has been polite has been banned for their opinions.

Actually, that's a good post, skite.

[mose]

Originally Posted by s-one

Wow, sorry that the OP had to go through all that. I just got some of the BW stuff friday for the first time and I have yet to apply so I'm reading this thread with a careful eye. So when BW is applied sparingly and buffed off, does it still stay greasy or does it dry up so dirt doesn't stick to it?

LOL!!! Yeah.....me too!!

So I used BW again this weekend and altered my application process. (i.e. I followed the instructions) Amazing what happens when you do that!!

I used a small pea sized amount on the running boards of an Explorer. Worked it in and made it stretch to cover the whole thing. Let it sit for 5 minutes and then buffed what little excess there was off. I did this after washing and detailing the whole vehicle out so I didn't test the smearing of it but I have to believe that it wouldn't have smeared.

I have to say that Richard contacted me this weekend abot the problems I was having. I got his email on Sunday and we emailed back and forth five or six times. He was very helpful, very informative as well as suuportive. He told me about the "trim card" that was supposed to come with my order. It didn't so he is sending me one in the mail.
I don't know or care why he was banned. All I know is that he heard about my problem, contacted me on a Sunday and has been very helpful. You can't really ask for more than that!! If the product ends up not being what I am looking for, then it has nothing to do with him as a person or how he does business...but so far the product is great!!