Collinite 845, not as long lasting as it's claimed? - Page 4

langod · 06-03-08, 12:20

No problems here.

I applied it in late October to my (daily driver) 01 Nissan Maxima. Car was clayed and I put on a layer of Klasse AOI. Then a coat of 845. Lasted all winter (car is not garaged) through one of the worst winters we've had in New Hampshire in a very long time.
The car was washed maybe three times the whole winter. It is still feels slick and the water beading is just now starting to dissipate.

EdLancer · 07-08-08, 04:01

I have nothing, but long durability with 845IW, wax in October and still beads in April after a harsh winter car sitting outside 24/7 !

The thing is that you have to apply a very thin film and wait at least 15-20 minutes before removing it or else you are just removing the product.

Bigpikle · 07-08-08, 08:44

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Originally Posted by EdLancer

The thing is that you have to apply a very thin film and wait at least 15-20 minutes before removing it or else you are just removing the product.

does it really need 15-20 mins before removing?

I used it the other weekend and did a very thin layer on a panel by machine, then wiped it off. It came off a breeze and has been beading brilliantly in the heavy rain since - it was very warm though with warm panels so maybe dried a bit quicker? Is this likely to compromise durability?

When I used 476 in the past I had to get that off very quick or really pay the price....

Brandon1 · 07-08-08, 08:48

I retract my statement of what I said earlier in this thread about longevity of this product. I bought a new bottle of 845 (and some 476) and love this one. It beaded nicely over 3 weeks of mud, rain, salt (beach) and sand. Sheds water like nothing else (cept 476)

mborner · 07-09-08, 03:35

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Originally Posted by EdLancer

The thing is that you have to apply a very thin film and wait at least 15-20 minutes before removing it or else you are just removing the product.

The instructions on Autogeek's web site says to remove it before it completely dries.

"You will find the wax easiest to remove if you apply a thin coat and do not let it completely haze over before buffing."

I thought is sounded kind of odd, too.

Eliot Ness · 07-09-08, 03:54

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Originally Posted by mborner

The instructions on Autogeek's web site says to remove it before it completely dries................

The 845 directions say to "Allow to dry to a haze and then polish off...."

I apply 845 with a PC to the whole vehicle before I start removing. That's the same method I use for almost all of my LSP's (including Collinite 476, Megs #16, etc.) and I've never had a problem buffing them off.

AL-53 · 07-09-08, 03:57

845 was changed a few years back..maybe 3 ...due to VOC regs...there is a post on here some where to tell whats the new one and old one...something to do with it saying paste on the bottle...maybe the new one is better or vice versa...search for the thread as it was discussed which one seemed better...

AL

evenflow · 07-09-08, 07:43

I can vouch for 845 lasting four-five months.

I put a coat on my car before winter, and it was still beading a month AFTER winter.

This is my go-to wax for winter prep.

Accumulator · 07-09-08, 08:41

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Originally Posted by Eliot Ness

..I apply 845 with a PC to the whole vehicle before I start removing. That's the same method I use for almost all of my LSP's (including Collinite 476, Megs #16, etc.) and I've never had a problem buffing them off.

Yep, same here, and I even let Souveran dry before I buff it off; I wait until the LSP will pass the "swip test", where it wipes off clean and dry. I've left all these LSPs (Collinites, #16, Souveran, you name it) set up for a *long* time, up to several hours, and they all buff off easily as long as I don't put 'em on too thick.

I sometimes think that vendors might suggest methods that are easiest *no matter how you do it* so that people think "gee, easy to use, I'll buy more", and if those methods result in people wasting product or getting compromised durability well... hey, the customer will just be buying more wax (and sooner).

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Originally Posted by AL-53

845 was changed a few years back..maybe 3 ...due to VOC regs...there is a post on here some where to tell whats the new one and old one...something to do with it saying paste on the bottle...maybe the new one is better or vice versa...

Yeah, the *post*-VOC bottles say "paste wax" on the bottle. I've done side-by-side comparisons with pre/post-VOC 845 and I couldn't discern *any* differences at all; they behaved exactly the same in all respects.

suki22 · 07-09-08, 01:58

If you are applying 845 by hand....is a foam applicator or microfiber pad better to use to get a thin coat?

Picus · 07-09-08, 02:05

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Originally Posted by suki22

If you are applying 845 by hand....is a foam applicator or microfiber pad better to use to get a thin coat?

I like foam applicators personally.

In my experience with 845 it lasted reasonably well on garaged cars, not so much on outdoor cars. On my car I got close to 3 months, but my car sees a wide variety of weirdness. Nothing seems to last on it. :/

So far, oddly, the best durability I've had with anything on my car is #16.

99blackSE · 07-10-08, 08:55

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Originally Posted by EdLancer

The thing is that you have to apply a very thin film and wait at least 15-20 minutes before removing it or else you are just removing the product.

The first time I used 845 I was disappointed by the durability. Second time around I let it sit for 30 min and it worked much better. I put a coat on the Sierra for the summer back in May and it's still beading quite nicely except on the hood. I think the heat may have killed it fast there

The truck does get garaged often but washed maybe 1-2 times a month.