System one....is it...

toyotaguy · 05-16-08, 07:12

is the the wool pad and the foam pad, or is it the polish that makes the system a good one?

seems like it would be the polish and any finishing wool/foam pad will suffice...correct? as in I can take my LC purple wool and a LC white/blue pad and achieve the same results...I wouldnt necessarily have to use the expensive pads from them right?

danponjican · 05-16-08, 07:52

Agreed. But I will say that I have had great success with X3 polish with several different pads (Edge blue wool for nice mild cut, green wool a step above blue and even the purple foamed wool for a great one stepper on certain CCs).

If you are experienced enough, you can narrow down pad selection to the perfect choice for the application at hand. Remember, no two clears are the same. The S1 Edge pad is a great versatile pad to get you started but once you get familiar with the cut of the X3 polish and how it works with various pads, you'll be able to use it with just about anything and get the exact level of cut and finish you are looking for.

toyotaguy · 05-16-08, 07:58

I dont already have edge pads, hence no adapter....and I got some purple wool for $10 each, and my pads for less than $10 each...so its more expensive to me...

My main concern was with the polish itself.

Is is just like being able to use M105 with a cutting pad, then a polishing pad, then go to wax????

toyotaguy · 05-16-08, 07:59

ok, the edge posted and now the post is gone...

Meghan@Autogeek · 05-16-08, 08:21

I have tried System One with Lake Country and with Edge, but ways are good with the System One. If you have Edge adapter then obviously it would be easier to go with Edge, but if you do not and have the Lake Country backing plate and pads then that would be the best way for you.

toyotaguy · 05-16-08, 09:20

thanks meghan, that is what I figured...

by the way, i placed an order for just DP Interior protectant...I need it by next friday, so if it get s out asap that would be GREAT!!! I really need to make one order, that was the 3rd order this month I think...LOL

TH0001 · 05-16-08, 09:33

You can do the same exact process with any finishing polish and alter the cut with the pads and produce the same results.

Meghan@Autogeek · 05-16-08, 09:35

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Originally Posted by toyotaguy

thanks meghan, that is what I figured...

by the way, i placed an order for just DP Interior protectant...I need it by next friday, so if it get s out asap that would be GREAT!!! I really need to make one order, that was the 3rd order this month I think...LOL

Email me with your order number and I will make sure you get it in time.
meghan@palmbeachmotoring.net

toyotaguy · 05-16-08, 09:41

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Originally Posted by TH0001

You can do the same exact process with any finishing polish and alter the cut with the pads and produce the same results.

Yeah I figured as much...just havent tried out the polish/pads from system one, and went to a local body shop and the guy was raving about it..."simply put, its the best stuff out there"

I think he was just trying to sell me on it....didnt work

TH0001 · 05-16-08, 10:02

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Originally Posted by toyotaguy

Yeah I figured as much...just havent tried out the polish/pads from system one, and went to a local body shop and the guy was raving about it..."simply put, its the best stuff out there"

I think he was just trying to sell me on it....didnt work

That guy lied to you.

System One isn't bad, but I dont' really think it is for autopian's. More like body shops who are amazed by a process that we already know about.

danponjican · 05-16-08, 10:35

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Originally Posted by TH0001

... but I dont' really think it is for autopian's. More like body shops who are amazed by a process that we already know about.

I beg to differ. I'll put my S1 finish up against any polish/pad combo out there. We've been through this already. Obviously, a lot of this is subjective, but I hardly think anyone can quantify anything.

Tod, why would you think S1 is not "for autopians"?

TH0001 · 05-16-08, 11:15

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Originally Posted by danponjican

I beg to differ. I'll put my S1 finish up against any polish/pad combo out there. We've been through this already. Obviously, a lot of this is subjective, but I hardly think anyone can quantify anything.

Tod, why would you think S1 is not "for autopians"?

Because based on my experience it just isn't as good as the products normally talked about on this sight.

Tom from System One said that it is the best product and he tested it against all the big boys. When I asked who exactly he tested it against he mentioned the top sellers in the body shop/professional detailer market, i.e. Automagic, Carbrite, 3M's junky products..

I will concede that System One is better than those products, but when I asked if he tested against Menzerna, 1Z, etc he said no. They are not big players in the market the product was designed for.

My experience only is that System 1 is kind of like a jack of all trades, master of none.

It will not cut as fast as dedicated compound and it will not leave the gloss behind that a dedicated finishing polish wil. It will remove defects when used with a wool pad (as will every polish in the world, hell even water will remove defects when used with a wool pad) and it will finish out reasonably well with Edge's 100ppi white foam, but not to the level of Menzerna PO85RD, 3M UltraFina-SE, Menezrna 106ff, or even Z-PC.

My experience has led me to believe that while System 1 will get the job done, it will not get it done to the level we are used to and it definetely isn't the product of choice for those who want 100 percent correction and the highest gloss known to man.

Just my opinion though.