Menzerna Polish Confusion, Why 4??

[detaildoc]

Originally Posted by AP2TUDE

I honestly think it is impossible to know everything there is to know.

I think it is a good call to go with IP and SIP, because honestly you never know what you are going to run into, and you never want to be caught unable to deal with a situation.

I agree. I always keep both at hand. Since SIP, a lot of people stopped using IP, but IMO, it still remains a great product with excellent functionality.

[Legacy99]

Originally Posted by themightytimmah

106FF is a good one-step, most cut of all those. 85RD has the finest finish of all those. I don't keep 87MC or 85U around, both have been superseded by UltraFina. 106ff still fills a niche as it works better on super-hard clear than UF, and 85rd still fills a niche as the finest polish I've used.

Ultrafina loses a bit gloss-wise to 85RD but it breaks down much faster and it is that much more enjoyable to use. UF has the cut to remove some wool marks, 85RD is not good for following anything but SIP on a pretty mild pad. Pretty much any job under $600 for me gets finished with Ultrafina.

The working characteristics are completely different between UF and the Menz polishes - you can work 106ff or 85rd to a progressively finer and finer finish, but it takes all freakin week to do it. Ultrafina can only be refined and worked so much, but you can take a "very good" car to "100% perfect" in less than an hour and a half. Ultrafina works in pretty much any condition (sun, humidity, heat, cold), whereas the Menz polishes like a certain set of conditions and will gum, dust, etc if used in the wrong environment.

I beleive 87MC has less cut than 85RD. On the Menz scale, 87 is a 1 and 85rd is 1.5.

[JuneBug]

My line up is 105 for compound, IP for medium - FFII for light and UltrafinaSE if I'm doing a two step with 105.

[SuperBee364]

Originally Posted by Legacy99

I beleive 87MC has less cut than 85RD. On the Menz scale, 87 is a 1 and 85rd is 1.5.

Ture, but the 85RD is a Ceramiclear polish. I don't think the 87MC is.

[DJBAILEY]

Having Opt Compound is a nice compliment to IP and SIP. I add a squirt of it to IP sometimes if the IP is dusting really bad. It will add more working time to it also.

[Sherri Zann]

This is probably the most specific and useful discussion of the Menzerna product subtleties that I've seen. Very helpful, especially mightytimmah's post. Thanks!

[whis9]

I found this, but I am not sure what combo I need. I have a 03 Silver Nissan 350z and a 2006 Black Mitsubishi eclipse. Thanks for the help.

NEW ! 3M Perfect-It™ 3000 Ultrafina™ SE Paint Finishing System

[themightytimmah]

Originally Posted by whis9

I found this, but I am not sure what combo I need. I have a 03 Silver Nissan 350z and a 2006 Black Mitsubishi eclipse. Thanks for the help.

NEW ! 3M Perfect-It™ 3000 Ultrafina™ SE Paint Finishing System

I'm not sold on their finishing system as a whole. Ultrafina and the Ultrafina pads are a awesome, however, the SMR and compound aren't cheap and leave a little bit to be desired.

What condition is your paint in, which machine do you want to use, and how much do you want to spend on product?

[whis9]

Originally Posted by themightytimmah

I'm not sold on their finishing system as a whole. Ultrafina and the Ultrafina pads are a awesome, however, the SMR and compound aren't cheap and leave a little bit to be desired.

What condition is your paint in, which machine do you want to use, and how much do you want to spend on product?

350z-alot of swirl marks and light scratches, can only been seen under florescent bulb. Try Z-PC and couldn't get them out

Eclipse- paint for the most part good, just a few light swirls marks.

I am using a PC and I want to spend what ever I have to for the 350z to get the paint perfect. Thanks for all the help.

[whis9]

Originally Posted by whis9

350z-alot of swirl marks and light scratches, can only been seen under florescent bulb. Try Z-PC and couldn't get them out

Eclipse- paint for the most part good, just a few light swirls marks.

I am using a PC and I want to spend what ever I have to for the 350z to get the paint perfect. Thanks for all the help.

Heeeeeeeeeeello out there.

[JoshVette]

Originally Posted by whis9

Heeeeeeeeeeello out there.

Maybe you should try starting a new thread, you may get more responses.