7 Wax/Sealant Durability Shootout(muliple pics)

[wfedwar]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Keep in mind, the lack of beading doesn't indicate a lack of durability with synthetic waxes (that includes sealants and hybrid waxes like 50/50 and 476s). Cleaning ability and slickness is a better guide.

Beading may not tell you everything, but it certainly is the easiest to judge. Imagine trying to actually do a test for cleaning ability or slickness????

[npb]

Originally Posted by TH0001

I know in the UK a lot of detailers started using it on wheels because it had such horrible durablity.

i know it seems unreasonable, but it should be allowed to sit and cure for 8-12 hrs/overnight

[gslowr]

1st post by me.. just wanted to say hi and excellent thread!

[steelwind101]

They use 109 on wheels (as i have started to) b/c it stands up quite well down there. Most of all its a product with alot of hype, while it will pass the squeek test for a several months beading and looks are highly diminished after about 10 weeks. Also, like i did they probably found it was more hype then acutal effect product!

Also, with regard the pics, what car shampoo are you using? I know that anything left in the shampoo such as gloss enhancers can have a massive impact on the beading of an LSP. Megs NXT shampoo for example leaves the finish very glossy looking and this QD type effective heavily effects beading and even leads some to believe that in one or two washes it has a removed there entire lsp!

May i suggest a gloss enhancing, polymer and silicon free wash is used such as Mothers California Gold Car Wash. It cleans well, lubes excellently and wont distort these post wash, rewetting pics?

Geoff

[impalaman1963]

This is what I like about this site. Ton's of information, just need the time to read it all.

[Way2SSlow]

Aboveclean,

Do you have any more pics of the wrangler now that we're in April? Interesting thread.

[cobrar97]

Come on...let's see the current conditions and your thoughts.

[Denzil]

Originally Posted by steelwind101

They use 109 on wheels (as i have started to) b/c it stands up quite well down there. Most of all its a product with alot of hype, while it will pass the squeek test for a several months beading and looks are highly diminished after about 10 weeks. Also, like i did they probably found it was more hype then acutal effect product!

Also, with regard the pics, what car shampoo are you using? I know that anything left in the shampoo such as gloss enhancers can have a massive impact on the beading of an LSP. Megs NXT shampoo for example leaves the finish very glossy looking and this QD type effective heavily effects beading and even leads some to believe that in one or two washes it has a removed there entire lsp!

May i suggest a gloss enhancing, polymer and silicon free wash is used such as Mothers California Gold Car Wash. It cleans well, lubes excellently and wont distort these post wash, rewetting pics?

Geoff

I think this issue is addressed with the control section of his hood.

I'm curious to see a recent update on this shootout.

[Zet]

Originally Posted by z06meister

I am surprised that the JS109 is not doing as good as I thought it would. I have heard people speak highly of this product but it looks like a few wax's like 50/50 and 476 are kicking it's butt.

Well, if tight beading is important to you then I guess it isn't doing as well. To me it just looks as if the sealants have more sheeting properties, and the "waxes" beads more, just as expected actually. And this has nothing to do with durabilty. The tight beading of the "waxes" will diminish with time, perhaps around the 2 month mark But there might still be protection left, as all of the waxes (AFAIK) are blended waxes and also contain some kind of polymer, except Souveran I guess..

Good job on the test. hope we'll get an update soon

[ron231]

So when is the next update?

[willtothewong]

Originally Posted by ron231

So when is the next update?

haha yes, i agree

[SuperBee364]

Yet another bump for update.