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11-05-09, 09:41
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U Bring It - I Bling It
David Fermani is offline
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Re: Want to Make Much Much More Than You Currently Do?
You're right Jimmy - I'm used to saying/thinking every $1000 is ~$25 difference in payment ($50 on a lease). My bad. Regardless, still a substantial difference from 50 cents.
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11-05-09, 10:18
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Re: Want to Make Much Much More Than You Currently Do?
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In some places no doubt. In others people don't even know what they're getting. But, I've seen it professionally sold at multiple levels and if done professionally, it can be very lucrative.
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No doubt about that! We all know how much paint sealant costs. The whole bottle costs less than the labor for the porter to apply it.
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11-06-09, 05:32
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has left the building
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Re: Want to Make Much Much More Than You Currently Do?
Had another thought here, yeah, old age is great! But consider the situation with the new car sale, you've looked at a dozen brands, narrowed it down to 2-3 through research and test drives, finally decided on "the" car, found the one with the options, the right color, got a good deal going, feeling good about the dealership and about to drive off - drum roll please! then they say, hey, wanna keep it looking great? Now, we all all know we on this forum are the small minority so it's natural for Joe Public to take the bait, hook, line and sinker.
Dealers know this, they are afterall - SALESMEN, they've taken the courses on body language, they know a mark when they see one. Case in point, wife and I were looking to get a Toyota 4Runner back in 03. We picked one out but another couple had saw it first and was in the process of getting it - our salesman, quietly pulled us aside and said don't worry, they won't get it. I couldn't believe it, cause they were so excited and ready to buy, sure enough, 10 minutes later they left and we were filling out the paperwork. How did he know? Experience!
Moral to this story - you know detailing, now get to know your customer and put that part first, every time.
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11-11-09, 07:12
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Detailing Loudoun
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Re: Want to Make Much Much More Than You Currently Do?
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Wrong. A $500 increase will add roughly $25 per month on a 5 year purchase.. On many leases, it can’t be rolled in because it can’t be residualized. Big difference from 50 cents right?
Right, but there’s tons of people that offer great products/service, but can’t sell and this ultimately leaves money on the table. No matter how good or how much value is perceived in a product/service, it won’t sell itself on its own. Don’t you agree?
I disagree. I don’t think it takes that much money to open up a successful and profitable detail operation. A lot less than most think actually. You could build the largest and greatest shop, but if you can’t fill it will work and vision, it will no doubt fail.
I don’t purposefully do this. I only speak from direct experience and accomplishments. Others speak from their butts and have no experience running a thriving, successful business. If someone like you is confident with their success, there no need to feel threatened by what I write.
You’re right. I didn’t put 100% effort into it. I was more interested in getting finished and getting out into the “real world”.
Brad - You have a college degree and have been detailing 7 years. How has college helped you attain the goals you have thus far? Could you be where you are today in business if you didn’t get this education? How have you positioned yourself to maximize your profitability and has college helped? Will you be doing mobile detailing long term or will you expand your business in other ways? If so, how?
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Unlike you, I did not waste my time doing the actual math. My numbers were simply to illustrate a point, which is still relevant. I am in no way threatened by what you write, however, I have never understood why you are such an antagonist. It seems like you enjoy acting in this manner. College taught me a wide range of skills that have helped me in life, and running a business. Most importantly, is how to think through and solve problems. This is in addition to things like economics, marketing, and IT skills that I learned in college. Yes, I do have plans to expand my business in the very near future. I plan to open up an express detail type operation in order to capture a bigger share of the car appearance market. Guess what, it is going to take a significant amount of money. Commercial real estate is very expensive in NOVA.
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11-11-09, 07:42
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U Bring It - I Bling It
David Fermani is offline
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Re: Want to Make Much Much More Than You Currently Do?
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Unlike you, I did not waste my time doing the actual math. My numbers were simply to illustrate a point, which is still relevant. I am in no way threatened by what you write, however, I have never understood why you are such an antagonist. It seems like you enjoy acting in this manner. College taught me a wide range of skills that have helped me in life, and running a business. Most importantly, is how to think through and solve problems. This is in addition to things like economics, marketing, and IT skills that I learned in college. Yes, I do have plans to expand my business in the very near future. I plan to open up an express detail type operation in order to capture a bigger share of the car appearance market. Guess what, it is going to take a significant amount of money. Commercial real estate is very expensive in NOVA.
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Sorry to hurt your sensitive feelings Brad. I guess college didn't teach you to have thick skin, but you'll eventually learn that as you become more successful in business. 
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11-11-09, 07:48
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Maksimum Auto Detailing
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Re: Want to Make Much Much More Than You Currently Do?
It's a moot subject guys, drop it. Doesn't pertain to the thread at all.
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Maksym Reznichenko- Owner of Maksimum Auto Detailing
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11-11-09, 02:44
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Advance Paint Correction
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Re: Want to Make Much Much More Than You Currently Do?
I wanna make more money but im dislecix and I have problems reading do they makes these books in audio format?
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11-12-09, 12:00
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Re: Want to Make Much Much More Than You Currently Do?
I read and I forget
I watch and I remember
I do and I understand
Reading the "right" books is important, but watching someone doing it is more important, doing what you just learned is the most important.
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11-12-09, 07:45
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Maksimum Auto Detailing
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Re: Want to Make Much Much More Than You Currently Do?
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I read and I forget
I watch and I remember
I do and I understand
Reading the "right" books is important, but watching someone doing it is more important, doing what you just learned is the most important.
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You're not reading business books correctly then.
Before you begin reading, you must identify where your business/life is lacking. Be it not enough revenue, too much busy work, bad employees, weak advertising...etc. Then when you begin reading, try to look for possible fixes to your problems.
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11-12-09, 04:57
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Re: Want to Make Much Much More Than You Currently Do?
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You're not reading business books correctly then.
Before you begin reading, you must identify where your business/life is lacking. Be it not enough revenue, too much busy work, bad employees, weak advertising...etc. Then when you begin reading, try to look for possible fixes to your problems.
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Those words belong to Confucius (Chinese philosopher & reformer (551 BC - 479 BC), they have been repeated by philosophers , business tycoons and political leaders for the last 2500 years. Here is another one,
"The wisdom of the wise, and the experience of ages, may be preserved by quotation." Benjamin Disraeli.
You have a valid point when you almost said "Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard . I will not argue against something right in it's self. But it's unrelated to topic at hand(Red herring-logical fallacy). You are saying essentially the same thing that I said, experience is more important but reading is important too, but you said it like a counter argument.
Correct me if I understood you wrong.
I believe the argument was reading books is the key to make more money or is it experience? And my point was both sides are true to some degree but the experience is more important than reading books, because it engages the mental, emotional and physical at the same time.
PS: And as far as me reading business books incorrectly, I usually don't explain my points detailed, and I am not perfect, maybe that's why you said what you said. But when you don't explain true words in a detailed fashion, it has a much powerful impact to it. It reaches to the unconscious, and to your being.
"The most important thing in communication is to hear what isn't being said." Peter Drucker
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11-13-09, 05:19
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Re: Want to Make Much Much More Than You Currently Do?
How about the K.I.S.S. method, keep it simple stupid. Why would anyone need to reference stuff 551 BC if they are just detailing cars, jeepers.
If you’re charging too much, charge less.
If you’re not charging enough, charge more.
If you’re an *******, be a nicer person.
Show examples of work.
I could go on forever, how is it that people need books to run a detailing business? Just get out there, don’t act like a *****, choose what type of clientele you want, charge enough money and spread the word. It seems like common sense to me. It’s not like we’re putting monkeys into outer space.
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11-13-09, 06:55
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Re: Want to Make Much Much More Than You Currently Do?
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...how is it that people need books to run a detailing business? .....It’s not like we’re putting monkeys into outer space.
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I think that question should be answered by profitable detailing business owner. Are you one of them?
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