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Old 08-30-08, 11:41   #1 (permalink)
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Gilmour shampoo test

Hey guys I have re-posted this as the other thread was getting confusing to navigate and also I have another foam test which I am about to post, so I thought three seperate threads would be better.

Ok well as promised!

For the guys across the pond 1oz = 30ml , saves any of you having to google it!

Well, this started a few weeks ago, I pm'd steve (l200steve) to ask him how I figure out what ratio of solution to put in my old Gilmour. I did something like this ages ago, refer to Foam Gun test with various shampoos - Autopia.org quite some years ago! I drew up an excel sheet so that I knew exactly how much I should put in my Gilmour running at 1:10.

First up

Hyper Wash
150ml by calculation, 150ml for the foam gun
Dwell time 5 mins
Cleaning ability 3/5 (score out of five?)
Foaming ability 3/5
Dwelling 2/5

Hyper wash is the uber dilution ratio of all washes, it is thick in consistency and I used hot water in the gilmour to get a more manageable wash solution. It is quite a lubricated wash and cleans well, it is not the best I have come across but the price of the product is tough to pass by. Thin suds left after, not a lot to be honest, it works but it is mid range.

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After Dwell


Meguiars Shampoo Plus
68ml by calculation, 70ml for the foam gun
Dwell time 5 mins
Cleaning ability 3/5
Foaming ability 4/5
Dwelling 2/5

Lots of suds here, very lubricated wash, my choice for wet sanding and clay due to the thick wash and high lubricity offered here. Not quite as long dwelling bit of a let down, however, this does perform very well as a normal wash shampoo.





Chemical Guys big and tar wash
30ml by calculation, 25ml for the foam gun
Dwell time 5 mins
Cleaning ability 5/5
Foaming ability 2/5
Dwelling 3/5

Bit of a wild card here, not a shampoo as such more of a stubborn mark remover, I decided to try this just for kicks, I took the strength down a notch as I didn't want to remove all the wax ! It actually performed better than some, very impressed. This would be ideal for the Pro or Hobby in the case that you have a heavily soiled vehicle, just sud it up and let it take the hard stuff off, since you would be restoring the dry paint anyway, handy size and not really a bad word against it.





Well, this started a few weeks ago, I pm'd steve to ask him how I figure out what ratio of solution to put in my old Gilmour. I did something like this ages ago, refer to Foam Gun test with various shampoos - Autopia.org quite some years ago! I drew up an excel sheet so that I knew exactly how much I should put in my Gilmour running at 1:10.

First up

Hyper Wash
150ml by calculation, 150ml for the foam gun
Dwell time 5 mins
Cleaning ability 3/5 (score out of five?)
Foaming ability 3/5
Dwelling 2/5

Hyper wash is the uber dilution ratio of all washes, it is thick in consistency and I used hot water in the gilmour to get a more manageable wash solution. It is quite a lubricated wash and cleans well, it is not the best I have come across but the price of the product is tough to pass by. Thin suds left after, not a lot to be honest, it works but it is mid range.

Spraying


After Dwell


Meguiars Shampoo Plus
68ml by calculation, 70ml for the foam gun
Dwell time 5 mins
Cleaning ability 3/5
Foaming ability 4/5
Dwelling 2/5

Lots of suds here, very lubricated wash, my choice for wet sanding and clay due to the thick wash and high lubricity offered here. Not quite as long dwelling bit of a let down, however, this does perform very well as a normal wash shampoo.





Chemical Guys maxi suds II
122ml by calculation, 100ml for the foam gun
Dwell time 5 mins
Cleaning ability 4/5
Foaming ability 5/5
Dwelling 4/5

Ok we have a draw, this product was outstanding, super foam, dwelled nicely, nice sudsy wash, nice lubricity a well rounded wash solution, this is an excellent bucket wash performer too. It dwells on the rounded edge which I like as more of the harder dirt is down there so it dwells longer on the harder dirt! Great.





Chemical Guys Cirtus wash and gloss
122ml by calculation, 100ml for the foam gun
Dwell time 5 mins
Cleaning ability 4/5
Foaming ability 5/5
Dwelling 4/5

Its basically this easy, do you like yellow or pink, both the chemical guys products are excellent, the citrus may edge it on the fact that it is more glossy once it is rinsed and also it provides more suds on impact. So I would say if I had to choose this would be it!





SIIIIMOOOOL Clear
166ml by calculation, 100ml for the foam gun
Dwell time 5 mins
Cleaning ability 3/5
Foaming ability 4/5
Dwelling 2/5

Ok so we have a top notch price here, good foam, good lube, nice fell to it, almost milky appearance, glossy, a very well rounded wash. I wasn't sure at first but the wash is certainly thick enough coming out of the bottle.





Supagard Shampoo
203ml by calculation, 50ml for the foam gun
Dwell time 5 mins
Cleaning ability 3/5
Foaming ability 4/5
Dwelling 2/5

Ok the further I got into this test, the more I realised that the solution was too thick, I was using too much shampoo for my very very soft water. So I reduced it with pleasant results. Not a fantastic shampoo for washing but seemed pretty good on the gilmour, but it just died not much left here.





1z Perls
36ml by calculation, 60ml for the foam gun
Dwell time 5 mins
Cleaning ability 4/5
Foaming ability 3/5
Dwelling 3/5

A good shampoo, nice and thick in the bottle, not much used in the gilmour compared to others, I was now experimenting with my results and being less scientific in my approach. This gave a nice foam and finished off with a nice gloss, not too different to say shampoo plus. Nice and lubed.





1z Gloss
68ml by calculation, 60ml for the foam gun
Dwell time 5 mins
Cleaning ability 2/5
Foaming ability 3/5
Dwelling 2/5

A very thin wash, almost like CG bug and tar remover, nothing special, although I do like this as a wash, very nice to use.





There ya go! Enjoy.
 
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Old 08-30-08, 12:21   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Gilmour shampoo test

thanks, this certainly has helped clear things up in my head!

out of all of them whats your go to?
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Re: Gilmour shampoo test

My go to has to be Chemical Guys Wash n Gloss, I also like Shampoo Plus for its lubricity.
 
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once again, thanks for posting this!
 
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I bet your car was pretty clean after this test... and severely lacking any LSP protection!
 
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Re: Gilmour shampoo test

It was pretty good man, I had some Zaino on it so it faired ok. Used CG Blitz once I was finished just to top up, Ill probably use Colli at the weekend.
 
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Old 09-06-08, 07:58   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Gilmour shampoo test

JJ,

I assume you're filling the jug up to the top with water, so are you using the 32 oz or 64 oz Gilmour? And do you have a copy of that excel spreadsheet available?
 
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Re: Gilmour shampoo test

Gotta try some DP Xtreme Foam shampoo! Great test though, thanks for posting the pics.
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Nice write-up. Don't mean to change the subject, but where can I get those hand pump that is on the gallon containers? Some said Home Depot, but couldn't find them and the help there never heard of them.
 
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yeah i'd be interested in the excel spreadsheet too!
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Re: Gilmour shampoo test

regarding foam guns (never used one)-how does someone with hard water avoid streaking and such? I know not to wash in the sun, but even in overcast or at dusk, if I let soap dwell on my car like this it's going the soap/water is going to dry pretty quickly. This alone has kept me from getting a foam gun.

Loved the write up. Makes me want the FG even more.
 
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JJ, wanna try a killer soap in the Gilmour? Look at Optimum's great (traditional) car wash.
 
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