what does everyone think?
also.... if anyone wants a good read, pick up the new Road & Track magazine (Nov. 2006) as it has articles on some future cars!
2009 + 2012 mustang gt
2010 bmw z2 lightweight roadster
2009 audi's exotic r8 cabrio
2010 pontiac gto
2008 honda s2000 *
2008 toyota supra *
2008 nissan 350z
2008 lotus esprit
2011 porsche 928
2011 bugatti roadster
more!
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That convert. is sexy!! Very hefty price tag so I better start saving my pennies
Wow! A Toyota I might actually want to own.
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mmm weird.. just read that toyota has decided not to bring out the supra
and just pretty much make the IS350 a 2door coupe and b the "supra"
Yay! The Supra is starting out as it left years ago...already pricing itself out of the market. Congrats Toyota for not learning from past mistakes. At least Nissan learned with the Z, which is why it became an instant hit. People could actually afford the Zs. If Toyota places the Supras out there at $50K+, I predict the car won't last 2 years. Nissan is on the verge of doing it again as well, pricing some of its Zs over $40K, which presents buyers with far better and sportier premium choices.
But, I do think that design is quite impressive and I like it. Of course, I like the design of Ferraris and Lambs to....
The Supra won't knock the Z off anything, at least from a sales standpoint, if pricing is out of reach (and out of touch) with the average buyer.
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Nice point Mike,
At $50k people could be getting their hands on M3's, Vipers, Corvettes, and others...
It definately looks like their target market has changed, I think Infiniti has the best market for car buyers. They are great cars, offer a lot, look great/sport/luxury and are affordable...
Some of the newer cars on the market meant for 20-25 year olds are priced out of this world, it's no wonder the sales are slouching for car companies. But I still hold onto my previous post...If I had it big one day I would like one
Absolutely right. It's quite ironic that the younger crowd prefers sports cars and car companies market these sports cars to them, yet the same companies are pricing them out of range of reasonable ownership to people who typically have limited incomes at younger ages. The sweet spot from a sales volume standpoint is between $20-30K for a majority of the population in the US, which is why the Z has done reasonably well and the Mustang continues to sell. BMW and Benz just released their Sept sales reports, and if you look at their volume leaders, it's always the lower end cars (3 series 325 models, C-class). Year to date for 2006, BMW sold something like 1,400 M3s IIRC. Does Toyota believe their car is better than the M3? I should hope not, meaning sales should be below that of the M3 or other comparable premium marques. Not enough to justify long term production IMO for the Supra. Instead, they'll drop the car after a brief reintroduction, and retool those factories for high volume SUV production, the bread and butter profit winners anyway. Toyota better seriously rethink their strategy and target market for their supercar, or it's on its way out before it ever gets here.Originally Posted by Joshua312
Some of the newer cars on the market meant for 20-25 year olds are priced out of this world, it's no wonder the sales are slouching for car companies. But I still hold onto my previous post...If I had it big one day I would like one
If I had $50k+ laying around to drop on a sports car, the Supra would be near the bottom of that list, not because it's just a Toyota or a poor performer, but because you can buy better performance and a more prestgious ride for the same amount elsewhere.
Even the base model Supra (at $40K), with 350 hp?! I mean, come on, you can get a brand new $27K Stang or 350Z, quickly mod it and arrive at 350hp and pocket the cash. Is 50 hp worth the $10K+ price differential between the base Supra and a Z? Not to me.
My $0.02....
Last edited by TigerMike; 10-03-06 at 11:36.
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The article is pretty much just speculation. The word from Toyota is that the Supra will be affordable and the price is expected to be in the $30K range.
Its a nice car, but in my eyes nothing will ever take the place of the original MKIV Supra. In all seriousness, theres only a handful of cars in the entire world I would pick over a Supra (think Enzo or Carrera GT), simply because for as long as I can remember the Supra has been my dream car. Its like Google buying the garage that they started up in, it would be for personal reasons.
The only thing that would make me like this car near as much as an MKIV would be if it could handle insane amounts of boost on the stock block and produce crazy amounts of Horsepower. And if it came in Royal Sapphire Pearl
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Wow, very nice!
a supra based off of an IS or GS..seems a realistic option..very do-able for Toyota...but have they in recent years given a crap about the sports car market??they seem to be content on building reliable..safe..and mostly boring cars
I'd still be willing to pay for this than a BMW M3 considering pricing and specs. Of course, considering it's much different price range than the Z, it probably won't knock the Z off it's pedestal unless it is really comparable across the board.
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