The New 2007 Toyota Camry....(pics 56k ok)

[jfelbab]

Surprise, Surprise, Surprise... Looks like a lot of people failed to notice that the 2007 Camry is quite a fast sedan. Faster than Honda and Ford who this year failed to make Car and Drivers list of the 10 quickest cars of 2007: $20,000 - $25,000.

Car and Driver's 10 quickest cars of 2007: $20,000 - $25,000
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-to-25000.html

2007 Camry V6
Zero to 60 mph: 5.8 sec
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.81 g

Not bad for a family cruiser that gets 22city/31highway mpg.

Ninth Place (tie): 2007 Pontiac G6 GT 3.9
Ninth Place (tie): 2007 Saturn Aura XR
Eighth Place: 2007 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged
Seventh Place: 2007 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT
Sixth Place: 2007 Volkswagen GTI
Fifth Place: 2007 Saturn Ion Red Line
Fourth Place: 2007 Nissan Altima 3.5SE
Third Place: 2007 Mazdaspeed 3
Second Place: 2007 Toyota Camry V-6
First Place: 2007 Subaru Impreza WRX

For comparison:
Toyota V6 XLE - Zero to 60 mph: 5.8 sec
Ford Fusion SEL V6 - Zero to 60 mph: 7.7 sec
Honda Accord EX V6 - Zero to 60 mph: 7.6 sec

[TRD-22]

Edmund's got 6.1 seconds out of the Camry but I've read that their test times are a bit slower than the rest of the industry.

Regardless 5.8 vs. 6.1 is damn fast for a family car

[SpoiledMan]

I didn't sift through to find out but I'm guessing that 7.6 on the Accord is an auto and not the 6 speed. Am I wrong?

[jfelbab]

Originally Posted by SpoiledMan

I didn't sift through to find out but I'm guessing that 7.6 on the Accord is an auto and not the 6 speed. Am I wrong?

All three were automatics.

Here is a recent Edmonds review. They didn't particularly care for the nose and rear treatment much but the car won their comparisons hands down. Their evaluation included the 2007 Toyota Camry and how it compares to its natural competitors: Honda Accord, Hyundai Sonata and Ford Fusion.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=109710

[SpoiledMan]

Kind of seems that they would have tested the manual versions of those cars since they're available.

[jfelbab]

Originally Posted by SpoiledMan

Kind of seems that they would have tested the manual versions of those cars since they're available.

Not many people buy manual these days so the reviews were done for the mass market.

[TRD-22]

Not to mention the Camry V6 doesn't come with a stick.

[SpoiledMan]

Ehh, if you check that list again you'll see that the Altima and like 6 other cars are ALL manuals. Again, it makes you wonder why pick the crippled Accord when there is a manual available. I'm not just defending the Accord here either. It just seems odd that that would be done.

[TRD-22]

Alright, this will answer everybody's questions.

I am a huge Car&Driver fan and have had all their issues delivered to my house since 1995.

This was featured in Feb.2006 issue
2006 Pontiac G6 GTP, 2006 Mazdaspeed 6, 2006 Acura TSX, 2006 Honda Accord EX V-6, 2006 Volkswagen Jetta GLI - Comparison Tests - Car and Driver

Tested was the new 6-Speed Accord Sedan that became available for the 2006MY.
Unfortunately, they don't have the specs on the website (at least I don't think) but I have the issue right in front of me.

6-Speed Manual
0-60- 5.9 secs
1/4 @ 14.5 secs/98mph
Rolling 5-60- 6.3 Secs

5-Speed Automatic (EX-L V6 Navi Dec. 2005 Issue)
0-60- 6.6 Secs
1/4 @ 15.1Secs/95Mph

[SpoiledMan]

That sure is a long way from 7.6 seconds to sixty.

[jfelbab]

Originally Posted by SpoiledMan

That sure is a long way from 7.6 seconds to sixty.

Much depends on which site you look at. Edmunds has detail on all four of these sedans.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...0/pageId=69305

Car and Driver's reported performance times are generally much quicker than Edmunds. I can't account for their differences. Perhaps they use the fastest run at C&D and average runs at Edmunds. Perhaps it is the track where the tests are run.

What is clear is that the extra horsepower and torque of the new Camry 3.5L V6 make a big difference in the performance. Using C&D data, the Camry automatic is still faster than the Accord manual. Just too bad it is not better looking but the look does tend to grow on you. Most seem to not like the nose, but since it is so fast you only get to see the rear end anyway.

Some data from the Edmunds review:
Ford Fusion V6
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 221@6250
Torque (ft-lb @ rpm): 205@4800
Transmission Type: six-speed automatic
EPA Fuel Economy (mpg): 21 City 29 Highway
0 - 30 (sec): 2.9
0 - 45 (sec): 5.0
0 - 60 (sec): 7.7
0 - 75 (sec): 11.2
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 15.7@90.0
30 - 0 (ft): 32.9
60 - 0 (ft): 128.4
Braking Rating: Good


Honda Accord V6
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 244@6250
Torque (ft-lb @ rpm): 211@5000
Transmission Type: 5-speed automatic
EPA Fuel Economy (mpg): 20 City 29 Highway
0 - 30 (sec): 3.3
0 - 45 (sec): 5.1
0 - 60 (sec): 7.6
0 - 75 (sec): 10.9
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 15.6@91.4
30 - 0 (ft): 33.1
60 - 0 (ft): 130.2
Braking Rating: Poor (fade and smoking)


Hyundai Sonata V6
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 235 @ 6000
Torque (ft-lb @ rpm): 226 @ 3500
Transmission Type: 5-speed automatic
EPA Fuel Economy (mpg): 20 City 30 Highway
0 - 30 (sec): 2.8
0 - 45 (sec): 4.9
0 - 60 (sec): 7.4
0 - 75 (sec): 11.0
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 15.6@90.3
30 - 0 (ft): 30.7
60 - 0 (ft): 121.5
Braking Rating: Excellent

Toyota Camry XLE V6
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 268 @ 6200
Torque (ft-lb @ rpm): 248 @ 4700
Transmission Type: 6-speed automatic
EPA Fuel Economy (mpg): 22 City 31 Highway
0 - 30 (sec): 2.7
0 - 45 (sec): 4.4
0 - 60 (sec): 6.5
0 - 75 (sec): 9.1
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 14.6@97.3
30 - 0 (ft): 31.1
60 - 0 (ft): 124.0
Braking Rating: Excellent

Car and Driver review data:
2007 Camry V6
Zero to 60 mph: 5.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 31.0 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 6.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.3 sec @ 99 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 145 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 170 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.81 g

[SpoiledMan]

Originally Posted by SpoiledMan

Ehh, if you check that list again you'll see that the Altima and like 6 other cars are ALL manuals.

Still doesn't explain why they chose the auto Accord for the test and not the manual. The manual is considerably quicker than the auto.