02-05-06, 06:23
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Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Southern Cali Posts: 6,658 | Chuck, to my knowledge Honda doesn't do fleet sales. If you'd like one for your rental company you have to go through the same buying process as Joe Public.
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02-05-06, 06:33
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Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 1,759 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Len_A Actually, to be truthful, I agree with most of what you said. I, too, can't stand fleet sales - Ford's fleet business has burned me in the wallet with poor resale values....Well, it's time for another tongue lashing for the twits at Ford, and this time I'm copying and pasting the comments from these threads into my document. One might say email is better, but I don't have a usable email address for any of their executives, and besides - there's nothing like a fax machine printing a twenty page fax at 6 AM. | Cool, I'm going to be moving on from Autopia for a while again, please email me if anything comes of that.
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04-23-06, 04:43
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Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Calgary Alberta, Canada! Posts: 792 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by dandydaniel What did you guys expect out of a mid sized family oriented sedan? It's not a sportscar or anything. Just my .02 | hey the accord looks okay | |
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02-09-07, 09:53
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Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,730 | Re: The New 2007 Toyota Camry....(pics 56k ok) was curious... how is it working on one of these, is the paint soft/hard? | |
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02-10-07, 02:29
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Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,054 | Re: The New 2007 Toyota Camry....(pics 56k ok) Quote: |
Originally Posted by bigal3 was curious... how is it working on one of these, is the paint soft/hard? | The ones I've seen firsthand in parking lots have lots of OP, but paint is something Toyota has never excelled in...
It must really be all about the bottom line and VOC compliance nowadays, as Mercedes, Porsche, and Audi/VW seem to be the only companies left with decent paintjobs 
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02-10-07, 03:52
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Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI - Cape Coral, FL Posts: 945 | Re: The New 2007 Toyota Camry....(pics 56k ok) Really? I just looked at the new Lexus LS460 and the paint was the best I've seen from any manufacturer. It was flawless obsidian black and perfectly smooth. Not even a hint of OP.
I read that Toyota had designed a new paint management/control system that controls the process in real time so maybe this is an example of what we can expect. I have not looked at the Toyota vehicles though.
This vehicle was amazing. It looked like it was just pulled from a vat of paint. | |
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02-10-07, 04:33
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Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 1,054 | Re: The New 2007 Toyota Camry....(pics 56k ok) Hmm, maybe I'll stop by a Lexus dealership just to stare at the paint...haha
All of the 'mainstream' car brands seem to have OP'ed paint with a thin clearcoat from what I've witnessed firsthand, with the exception being Volkswagen.
The upper-echelon car brands usually have very good paint. Mercedes and their new Ceramiclear clearcoats are awesome(scratch resistance) and I guess Lexus should now be on that list.
Car & Driver stated that Audis have the best paintjobs in the world, and I can't find a reason to disagree with them, all of the ones I've seen are flawless.
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02-10-07, 08:18
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Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 617 | Re: The New 2007 Toyota Camry....(pics 56k ok) My Mom just bought a 07 Camry to replace her 94 Camry V6 with 180K. NOTHING ever went wrong. Tell me a 'Merican car could do that...ha. They can't even copy a good car, let alone build one from scratch. | |
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02-10-07, 08:57
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Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 197 | Re: The New 2007 Toyota Camry....(pics 56k ok) Quote: |
Originally Posted by Nimble My Mom just bought a 07 Camry to replace her 94 Camry V6 with 180K. NOTHING ever went wrong. Tell me a 'Merican car could do that...ha. They can't even copy a good car, let alone build one from scratch. |
lol, sad but true. Most of my family drives only foreign cars. It all started when my dad bought a Honda and all his car troubles dissapeared. Now we all do it. By the way, my mom just got an 07 Camry too, although it's the hybrid version. She went from filling up her tank 6 times a month to once every 3 weeks! It's definently a luxury hybrid so to speak. Rated at 40 MPG, but actually she get's around 42. It's nice to have a car that actually gets better than advertised mileage for once! It's been below zero quite a bit around here and she hasn't had any battery problems etc. And with the CVT transmission it can accelerate quite well. Plus it has leather, navigation, heated seats, bluetooth, and quite a few other things. A car like that deserves some respect. I own an American car now (Grand Prix) but I'll never buy another American car of any kind again, unless a miracle happens with their reliability. My engine and trans are great but the rest of the car is falling apart. Oh well, the power makes up for it lol.
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02-17-07, 02:54
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Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,423 | Re: The New 2007 Toyota Camry....(pics 56k ok) Never been a fan of Jap cars. Being from Europe, it's the only way I'll go. | |
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02-17-07, 03:25
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Join Date: May 2004 Location: Fairfax Virginia Posts: 6,043 | Re: The New 2007 Toyota Camry....(pics 56k ok) Quote: |
Originally Posted by jfelbab Really? I just looked at the new Lexus LS460 and the paint was the best I've seen from any manufacturer. It was flawless obsidian black and perfectly smooth. Not even a hint of OP.
I read that Toyota had designed a new paint management/control system that controls the process in real time so maybe this is an example of what we can expect. I have not looked at the Toyota vehicles though.
This vehicle was amazing. It looked like it was just pulled from a vat of paint. | if single stage, all their black paint has been exceptional.
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02-21-07, 11:15
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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 25 | Re: The New 2007 Toyota Camry....(pics 56k ok) I do have to say I am very disappointed with my 2007 Camry paint. I already have 2 rock chips in my hood after 5 months. Also, when I inspected the rock chips the paint is ver y thin as is the clearcoat. It is a tad discouraging but I think if I maintain it it should be manageable. | |
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