honda or toyota? - Page 6

awahl63 · 07-22-06, 11:41

Honda IMO.

arenner80 · 07-22-06, 11:59

As a former Honda technician, I would choose a Honda second to none. The reliability is perfect, AS LONG AS THE OWNER PERFORMS THE SCHEDULED MAINT.-i 7500, 15k, 30k, 90k.
I have seen numerous Honda owners ***** because they had to put a new trans, head gasket, etc on their car @ 100k, the reason for this was that they believed that "Honda's are zero maint.".
Oh, and I have nothing againt Toyota, they make a great automobile too!

IF YOU ARE GOING TO OWN A HONDA, PERFORM THE SCHEDULED MAINT., IF YOU FAIL TO DO THIS, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO OWN ONE OF THE MOST RELIABLE VEHICLES ON THE ROAD!!!

Chan · 07-22-06, 12:05

I'm a Toyota guy, they're a more conservative image than Honda though. They're starting to change their Lexus lineup, they used to be the little luxury brand with bland cars. Now all their designs look better than any of the other luxury brands in its price range. The new LS460 looks better imho than the A8, S550, and 7 Series, and the Q45 or whatever Infiniti offers.

As for reliability, they're on par with one another. Interior is getting better at both ends, both are years ahead of any American brand. You can't really go wrong with either brands.

arenner80 · 07-22-06, 11:30

+1 Chan

I completely agree with you. It is pretty much up to the consumer which one they prefer. There is no bad choice!

rjstaaf · 07-23-06, 06:56

Toyota does seems to be having some quality issues of late. Have you guys seen the latest global recalls? Toyota has recalled nearly 1 million trucks (Tacoma, Tundra and Sequoia) for faulty ball joints that can wear prematurely.

They have also recalled nearly half a million compact cars like the Prius and Echo and a few other models for a faulty engine part that can cause an engine oil leak leading to engine failure. Another recall for a console trim piece in Toyota and Lexus SUVs that can come loose and interfere with the gas pedal. Then there is the bizarre recall to remove airbage shutoff switches in Tundra trucks because of some obscure rule about child safety seat latches.

Toyota recalls more than 750,000 SUVs, trucks
Problems with front suspensions may hinder steering
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7887155/

Toyota Recalls Vehicles Over Faulty Engine
http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/pro...718&ID=5873092

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- This fall, Toyota will voluntarily recall nearly 160,000 Toyota Tundra pickups so that they can be made less safe for children riding in the front seat.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/07/11/...all/index.html

Toyota Recall Information
http://www.nbc11.com/newslinks/9512996/detail.html

Do a search on Google for Toyota and Recall. I got curious when I saw a piece on Autoline Detroit today mentioning all the recall troubles Toyota was having.

atticdog · 07-23-06, 07:09

honda havening its problems too
2006 Honda Civic
Recall: EXTERIOR LIGHTING:HEADLIGHTS
2006 Honda Accord
Recall: EXTERIOR LIGHTING:HEADLIGHTS
2006 Honda Accord
Recall: AIR BAGS:FRONTAL
2006 Honda Civic
Recall: AIR BAGS:FRONTAL
2006 Honda Civic
Recall: VEHICLE SPEED CONTROL:ACCELERATOR PEDAL
honda 2006 recalls

rjstaaf · 07-23-06, 07:19

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Originally Posted by atticdog

honda havening its problems too

Cool site although it doesn't seem to be complete as it is missing the latest recalls. I did poke around though and saw that even the 2007 Camry has an air bag recall. Have you checked yours to see if it needs to have the recall done

Here is the link to Toyota, looks like there are far more for Toyota than Honda.
http://www.automotive.com/new-cars/r...ota/index.html

If you look at just the recalls I listed in my previous post the total number of vehicles involved is somewhere between 1.5 and 2 million.

BlkTac05 · 07-23-06, 08:19

Back in Jan. of 2000 I was in the market for a new car. Something in the 20k-30k range. My heart & my ego wanted a BMW 5 series, but my wallet couldn't support such a purchase. Growing up, my entire family drove nothing but GM vehicles. ( My parents & uncles drove nothing but Chevy's & Caddy's) Since the apple doesn't fall very far from the tree, I too, drove Chevy's through the mid 80's & 90's. ( 86 IROC-Z & a 96 Silverado ) I started my quest by looking at everything out there at the time. GM's, Ford's & Dodges just did nothing for me back then. A guy I worked with had owned nothing but Honda's all his life & swore by them. He urged me to check them out. The ripple effect that was created in my family when I told them I was test driving a Honda Accord almost cost me my seat at the Sunday Dinner Table! (lol) To make a long story short, I bought the 2000 Honda Accord EX-V6, Dark Emerald Pearl. The fit/finish was terrific. The V6 was as advertised......Revy & silky smoothe! The innocent styling of the Accord was somewhat appealing to me coupled with the more than capable V6 & smoothe tranny. I owned my Honda for 4 1/2 years & never had a single problem with it. I loved that car! I kept it in "showroom condition" through my detailing efforts & always performed routine maint on it. It was also the 1st vehicle I ever used synthetic oil in. (Mobil 1 Synthetic) In October of 2004, I got caught up in the J.D Power "Truck of the Year" claims on the 2005 Toyota Tacoma. Since my honda retained so much value, it was a trade in value that worked in my favor. At the time, I owed about $1K on my Accord & the smart thing to do would've been to keep the Accord. but the dealer said he's give me $11k for my mint Honda if I bought the Tacoma & my "itch" for the newly re styled Tacoma V6 was "scratched". (lol) I drove home with the 2005 Toyota Tacoma V6 Access Cab-Pre Runner. Color: Black Sand Pearl. Like my Accord, the Tacoma is well built with a nice V6. It lacks the lower end torque of my Honda V6 & you really have to punch the throttle to get her to "pur". But it's a truck, not a car. As of today, my Tacoma has 10,400 miles on it without any problems at all. My only complaint is the paint finish. Orange Peel!! It's a nice truck, but deep down inside I still miss my Accord. If I had to do it all over again, I would've stayed with Honda for no other reason than the Honda powertrain. Perhaps a Ridgeline is in the future for me, but I just can't warm up to the Ridgeline Body Styling, yet. But hey............It's a Honda!!!

arenner80 · 07-23-06, 10:37

As far as the recalls go, The manufacturer is recognizing the problems and fixing them. No matter what you drive, it is going to have recalls. When I worked at Honda, the recalls I was seeing most were the oil seal retainer on Accords, and the seat belt recall on the CRV's back in 02.
most of this does not affect the reliability if the consumer addresses the recall.

atticdog · 07-23-06, 11:38

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Originally Posted by rjstaaf

Cool site although it doesn't seem to be complete as it is missing the latest recalls. I did poke around though and saw that even the 2007 Camry has an air bag recall. Have you checked yours to see if it needs to have the recall done

Here is the link to Toyota, looks like there are far more for Toyota than Honda.
http://www.automotive.com/new-cars/r...ota/index.html

If you look at just the recalls I listed in my previous post the total number of vehicles involved is somewhere between 1.5 and 2 million.

Ill look into it but since I bought it in July I would imagine it wont need it since they started the recall in april

as arenner80 mentioned with these recalls at least the manufacturer is recognizing the problems and fixing them. When i had a dodge it took forever to get the company to issue a recall for the bad ball joints that only lastes 30k miles finally after years they did the recall only after dakotas,durango wheels were falling off.

rjstaaf · 07-23-06, 12:05

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Originally Posted by atticdog

Ill look into it but since I bought it in July I would imagine it wont need it since they started the recall in april

as arenner80 mentioned with these recalls at least the manufacturer is recognizing the problems and fixing them. When i had a dodge it took forever to get the company to issue a recall for the bad ball joints that only lastes 30k miles finally after years they did the recall only after dakotas,durango wheels were falling off.

The big recall is not on new vehicles, they are recalling trucks dating back to 2001. This was not voluntary either. Customers were complaining to the NHTSA regarding failing ball joints. Geez guys you portray Toyota like they are the Mister Rogers of the automotive world. Toyota is just as inclined to ignore a problem until they are forced to fix it as any other manufacturer.

http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosins...C01-186791.htm

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WASHINGTON -- Longtime quality champion Toyota Motor Corp. showed this week that it too is struggling with an industrywide increase in vehicle recalls.

The Japanese automaker is recalling 775,000 trucks and SUVs after customers told government investigators the vehicle's ball joints collapsed without warning, leading to a loss of steering control and sometimes thousands of dollars of damage.

2003SCT · 07-23-06, 09:29

I think that it's interesting too that Toyota uses ALOT of Delphi parts...a company that many percieve to be mainly a GM pats manufacturer....hell the entire air conditioning and cooling system on a new Tacoma is from Delphi. Toyota lists Delphi as their third largest supplier....

Just figured I would mention that as I have run into alot of people recently under the impression that GM was the only one really using Delphi.

CHRIS