honda or toyota? - Page 16

yamichi · 06-08-09, 01:39

Nobody in their right mind would trash talk Honda or Toyota as a whole. Both have put out some terrible stuff, both have done some awesome stuff. Both have killer resale, great mileage, reliability no amount of advertising can touch...
Ford is actually trying and the Fusion wouldn't be something to sniff at but no other american car would even run in the same group.

As has been said though, since about 1998, Toyota hasn't made anything fun. If you want cushy, comfy, relaxed driving get a Toyota. If you want more involved and visceral driving, get the Honda.

soccerjunky · 06-08-09, 01:54

Which honda model provides a visceral driving experience? It can't be the insight,accord,civic,crv,clarity,fit and it sure as hell is not the pilot , element or ridgeline..maybe the s2000... a friend of mine has a s2000 and the soft top is a pos, it barely fits right,

SCoach · 06-08-09, 02:08

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Originally Posted by soccerjunky

maybe the s2000... a friend of mine has a s2000 and the soft top is a pos, it barely fits right,

Really? My S2000's top fit like a dream. Only moderate wind noise at 100mph. The early models had a fault where one of the metal hoops would rub through the top after a few hundred openings and closings. People who rarely used the top wouldn't notice, but for people who used it nearly daily like me, it was an issue. They bandaged the issue in 2004/2005 and I don't know what the current model has there.

My own take is that Toyota decided some 10 years ago to focus on female buyers. The sports cars went away, there were no significant trucks, and they built nice Camry's and other demure cars. The trucks came back because they were getting slaughtered in that market segment. But they still don't build a decent sports car. Having a "Camry" in NASCAR is an absolute joke. Not that I am a big NASCAR fan, but how lame is that....?

My ex has had two Hondas (CRV and Element) and I've owned an S2000. I'd take any of them over anything Toyota makes. But Honda's corporate mannerisms suit me better. Right now I have a Subaru and a Range Rover. I am going to add a Porsche to the fleet next year I think.

No Toyotas for me, thanks.

HappyWax · 06-08-09, 03:08

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Originally Posted by soccerjunky

Which honda model provides a visceral driving experience? It can't be the insight,accord,civic,crv,clarity,fit and it sure as hell is not the pilot , element or ridgeline..maybe the s2000... a friend of mine has a s2000 and the soft top is a pos, it barely fits right,

Whoa-

The argument is Toyota vs Honda -So while No the civic or Accord is not a "sports car" it is certainly sporty compared to the Corolla

I think many would agree that a Civic is more sporty than a Corolla and the accord more sporty than a Camry.

Plus Honda makes some bad-*** race bikes....

I think in general Honda makes "drivers" cars and Toyota is a little more...vanilla-

By the way,
When I worked at the BMW dealership, the saying was:
Toyota (Lexus) will get you there reliably, but you'll fall asleep on the way.

SpoiledMan · 06-08-09, 03:50

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Originally Posted by soccerjunky

Which honda model provides a visceral driving experience? It can't be the insight,accord,civic,crv,clarity,fit and it sure as hell is not the pilot , element or ridgeline..maybe the s2000... a friend of mine has a s2000 and the soft top is a pos, it barely fits right,

When you compare product to product (Camry to Accord, Corolla to Civic etc.) the Honda version is much more involved a drive than the Toyota.

BigAl3 · 10-29-09, 05:24

the toyota ft-86 concept (i'm likin' it so far) is not too far from production and from the looks of it, it's pretty nice. IIRC, it's going to be around $20K, but i'm sure it's going to be a bit more.

YouTube - Toyota FT-86 Concept

byalegend · 10-29-09, 08:21

I've driven Hondas since I was a teenager. I recently drove a friends 2004 4Runner for a few days - it was pretty nice, but the interior's build quality was questionable vs. the Hondas I've driven. Either brand is fine, but I'd probably go with a Lexus over a Toyota.

BigAl3 · 10-29-09, 08:50

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I've driven Hondas since I was a teenager. I recently drove a friends 2004 4Runner for a few days - it was pretty nice, but the interior's build quality was questionable vs. the Hondas I've driven. Either brand is fine, but I'd probably go with a Lexus over a Toyota.

agreed, my dad has a 2007 camry and the interior design is a dissapointment

. i wish he would of went with the accord instead...

MichaelSpoots · 10-29-09, 09:10

I have a 2009 Honda Civic EX, and the interior build quality is disappointing, even for an economy car. Rattles, squeaks and vibrations galore. Mainly has to do with the plastic-y interior, where panels make so much noise, even on relatively nice roads.

I still love it though.