Disapointing news.....

DETAILKING · 03-09-04, 10:16

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...ninreliability

Redcar GUY · 03-09-04, 10:24

Good, maybe its time to move some jobs back here

DavidB · 03-09-04, 10:40

So much for German quality. However, I must say, I've put more than 500,000 miles on Porsche and BMW cars in the past 10 years and can count the mechanical/service problems on one hand.

detailbarn · 03-09-04, 11:04

I have a hard time believing that. Every amercian car I've ever owned gave me a ton of problems. My mom has a 2002 Excursion with about 30,000 miles on it and it has a ton of problems the power windows don't work , the reverse sensing systems works in drive , the interior is falling apart and the plastic is all discoloring , the four wheel drive randomly works at best. I think there may be problems with the new electronic gizmos that alsmost all car makers are putting in there cars. I still think overall quality and realiability is with the German made vehicles.

blkZ28Conv · 03-09-04, 11:12

In a telephone conference with reporters, Champion revealed a startling statistic: a new 2003 BMW 7-Series sedan has more problems than an 8-year-old Lexus LS 400 sedan.

This is not news.

Lexus has always been a flawless, carefree vehicle that just goes and goes and goes.

NY detailer · 03-09-04, 11:30

I am not sure what car it was I think it was a volvo, but my friend one day did not close the gas cap all the way and the engine light came on, he needed to go to the dealer to get reset.

I dont have time for that crap. If you ask me nothing beats american muscle cars.

blkZ28Conv · 03-09-04, 11:33

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Originally posted by NY detailer
If you ask me nothing beats american muscle cars.

jaobrien6 · 03-09-04, 11:49

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Originally posted by NY detailer
I am not sure what car it was I think it was a volvo, but my friend one day did not close the gas cap all the way and the engine light came on, he needed to go to the dealer to get reset.

If I don't tighten the gas cap enough on my Acura Integra (3 clicks is what they say in the manual), then the check engine light will come on. I think that's actually fairly common as a friend had the same problem on a different car (can't remember what it was). However, I definitely don't have to take it to the dealer to fix it; I just have to tighten the gas cap down and drive the car a couple of times and the light goes off.

John

Spilchy · 03-09-04, 12:40

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Originally posted by NY detailer
I dont have time for that crap. If you ask me nothing beats american muscle cars.

Right on brother

(I don't know how that relates to the thread, but I love the sentiment!)

medic · 03-09-04, 01:42

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Originally posted by jaobrien6
If I don't tighten the gas cap enough on my Acura Integra (3 clicks is what they say in the manual), then the check engine light will come on. I think that's actually fairly common as a friend had the same problem on a different car (can't remember what it was). However, I definitely don't have to take it to the dealer to fix it; I just have to tighten the gas cap down and drive the car a couple of times and the light goes off.

John

I think the light comes on becasue the system can't maintin the proper pressure.

blackcaraddict · 03-09-04, 01:50

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Originally posted by NY detailer
If you ask me nothing beats american muscle cars.

LightngSVT · 03-09-04, 02:06

I dont know, I have ahd only American cars except for a 91 300ZX TT (awesome car!) and my current beater 91 Civic SI. I have had very good luck with all my cars to date with only minor and very occasional trips to the dealer. I once owned a Ford E150 van with 265000 miles that was still going strong when I sold it. MAybe I have been lucky?