Should of pop this earlier..........

C-MDX · 03-04-04, 07:10

I have a big rust problem with my new MDX which I noticed the second week after purchasing, also, I've found many other problems (look at the second last post). It's suppose to be a car case not a detailing case but since I'm in autopia, I couldn't resist mention it in a bigger forum. I don't know if this is what it's call but is it consider as a lemon?? This is actually a problem many MDX owners were interested in finding out. How about giving some opinions here on what I can do and how to take care of this case. BTW, I'm Captain MDX.

http://www.acuramdx.org/forums/showt...threadid=15772

detailbarn · 03-04-04, 08:04

The Brakes are normal so I wouldn't worry about them to much but the rest does kind of seem out of place on such a new car. I just checked my 2001 Toyota Tacoma with 107,000 miles on it and the only thing that is rusted is the exhaust. I think there maybe a high moisture content where they are being built and sold , in which case Acura should address the issue by undercoating the cars for your particular market. I'm not sure how Canada works but depending how long you've had it you can take it back and deny deilvery , atleast you can in the US. Also look into lemon laws , the faster you get a handle on this the better. It may not be a major problem now but it could lead to serious problems down the road. If they refuse to fix it I would get the rust removed and get undercoating installed. Hope this helps you some , hope this works out for you in the end.

C-MDX · 03-04-04, 08:23

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Originally posted by detailbarn
The Brakes are normal so I wouldn't worry about them to much but the rest does kind of seem out of place on such a new car. I just checked my 2001 Toyota Tacoma with 107,000 miles on it and the only thing that is rusted is the exhaust. I think there maybe a high moisture content where they are being built and sold , in which case Acura should address the issue by undercoating the cars for your particular market. I'm not sure how Canada works but depending how long you've had it you can take it back and deny deilvery , atleast you can in the US. Also look into lemon laws , the faster you get a handle on this the better. It may not be a major problem now but it could lead to serious problems down the road. If they refuse to fix it I would get the rust removed and get undercoating installed. Hope this helps you some , hope this works out for you in the end.

They keep refuse to replace it for me and said it's normal (screw them

). The guys in acuramdx.org said the MDX doesn't have a undercoating which I assume is because Acura wants to save money

. I need to solve this quick before I can detail my car. I don't want to detail a car that is a lemon

medic · 03-05-04, 02:05

are you talking to the dealership or to acura corporate. corporate will be more willing to help. they may not replace it, but they may remove the rust and provide the undercoating.

was undercoating even an option?

reevis · 03-05-04, 02:27

C-MDX -

I believe most cars don't originally come with undercoating. It is usually an option you can purchase at the time of signing (you know when they try to sell the paint sealant, leather protection, packages?) to be put on at a later date.

I'm curious as to why there's so much...
Has it been a pretty wet/snowy winter for you? Do they use lots of road salt/chemicals, etc in your area?
That's the only thing I can think of that would cause something to rust that quickly this time of year. Road chemicals are usually pretty harsh and can do some crazy damage if left to sit long enough...

I guess another question...is this the first time you looked under the vehicle? It very well may have been there when you bought it...

hmmm...keep us posted.

Bill D · 03-05-04, 02:39

Wow, thats extensive rust for a new vehicle maybe it lies in the nature of the materials used in those parts? I don't think the parts you photographed are generally covered when undercoating is applied

I know how undercarriage rusting can be annoying. Ive been somewhat successful tackling light rust with steel wool along with metal polishes and I've used some products by http://www.kanolabs.com too. With areas near my brakes and along the rim of the rotors I applied a product called Weatherpruf when I first got my car. It is a sort of shellac that seals out mositure from permeating the surface of the metal

I think POR 15 would be useful in your case too.

Bill D · 03-05-04, 02:44

BTW,

This system might be of interest to those of you in Canada:

http://www.krown.com/

JohnnyDaJackal · 03-05-04, 03:02

C-MDX, my friend had the same problem with rust on his brakes. Even though it usually comes as soon as you use the brakes its still annoying to see when parked. What he did was painted the rotors. He did his yellow a little extreme, but if your like me and want it to blend in you can always go with a black or gray. He also did it on his bro's bmw 330ci in silver and the only difference is he doesn't get rust on it now. You might want to look into that for the brakes, the other parts of rust i dunno, maybe try cleaning up em with a brillo pad if it really bothers you.

Bill D · 03-05-04, 03:29

Here's another good source of products for this sort of situation. I know Eastwood has good paints for thi sort of thing too

http://www.eastwoodco.com/department...sPre&SKW=FRUST

Accumulator · 03-21-04, 07:21

Saw this thread linked from another one and thought I'd comment.

While *I* wouldn't like to have that much corrosion on any of MY cars, it's not unusual. MANY vehicles have unpainted, bare metal components underneath, and even a lot of cad-plated stuff will corrode if you don't keep it VERY clean. The undersides of my mid-'90s GM vehicles (and the underside of my 2000 Ford Crown Vic)were all like that. There's more corrosion under my '02 Subaru than I'd like, but I figure it's an inexpensive car with a corresponding build quality. My "better" cars have all been VERY corrosion-free, even after many winters. Just a different level of manufacture.

I don't think you got a "lemon", you just got a vehicle with a "reasonable" build quality. Again, *I* wouldn't want that, but then I'm not necessarily "reasonable"; I'm pretty extreme about the undercarriages of my vehicles. Maybe you are too. Next time, look at/under a USED example of what you're interested in, one that's been used in winter.

Mr. Clean 2K · 03-21-04, 08:16

If you do coat it I would clean it then use por 15 and then rubberized under coating, but por 15 first...

gb387 · 03-21-04, 08:44

My father just bought his second MDX and I sure don't remember any rust on his first. Next time I see him I will have to check the new one out.

When you pay for Acura you expect to get Acura, you pay the price and get a high quality vehicle and the last thing you expect to see is rust on that car.

You know I have seen some Hummer H2s with the same problem.

Not that this will make you feel any better I bought my Lightning about 3 months ago now and I inspected the truck and it looked great then signed the papers... I needed to clean out my old truck so I left the L at the dealer and they cleaned it up a little for me. When I got back to drop my old truck off and pick up the L my tailgate had some MAJOR scratches, they were a 1/4" wide and went from one end of the tailgate to the other, all the way to primer. Talk about being upset just makes you sick so I can understand you frustration.