New Genesis Coupe...wtf? - Page 3

BigAl3 · 03-12-09, 05:26

here's a quote for the april 2009 motor trend issue on page 46...

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Hyundai Genesis Coupe
Meet the car that has Ford running scared. And with good reason: In terms of price and performance, the Genesis Coupe goes toe to toe with the 2010 Mustang. We've driven a v-6 Genesis Prototype, and Ford has every reason to be worried. It's a great drive.

blackcaraddict · 03-16-09, 04:09

Of course it's a ripoff, just like the Genesis is a complete copy of the Merc S class. At the end of the day, it's still a ****** hyundai - it's for pretenders.

XRL · 03-16-09, 06:43

There was a time when Nissan and Honda and Toyota were much in the same way. Nowdays people will drop 60k for an Acura, Infiniti, or Lexus, and the IS-F is damn near as good as the M3. The Maxima is considered one of the best FWD Sport Sedans (or at least almost good enough to not make that phrase an oxymoron).

I'm not a big fan of Hyundai in general, but if these cars were sold as a different brand everyone would be giving them the highest praise ever. Except the V8 Genesis. It is pathetic slow for a "V8 Sport Sedan". When you're slower than the competition's V6 you've got a problem (GS350).

OTG Signs · 03-16-09, 06:56

It's still a Hyundai, regardless of how fast or what drivetrain it has.

Beefhouse · 03-16-09, 07:33

A good effort on Hyundai's part, but the new Camaro V6 is a powerful bargain itself.

XRL · 03-16-09, 09:13

The Camaro is a great bargain if you never intend to sit inside of it, and will only look at it from certain angles. It's a great car for your buddy to have. But if you have to actually deal with that attempt at an interior, that's a deal breaker.

MeowMan · 03-16-09, 10:55

I have a Dodge (2008) and a Chevrolet (2001) they both run great and do what they are meant to do. The point is, they are "down to earth" car brands as is a Hyundai. People say it's a Hyundai blah, blah, blah. The Genesis is a beautiful car and does resemble the G37. Who cares though. The G37 isn't a unique car, it looks how a sports coupe should look in 2009. The Tiburon is a VERY UNIQUE car that doesn't get the respect it deserves.

Lumadar · 03-16-09, 11:38

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Originally Posted by BigAl3

here's a quote for the april 2009 motor trend issue on page 46...

* FIVE WORTH WAITING FOR *

Hyundai Genesis Coupe
Meet the car that has Ford running scared. And with good reason: In terms of price and performance, the Genesis Coupe goes toe to toe with the 2010 Mustang. We've driven a v-6 Genesis Prototype, and Ford has every reason to be worried. It's a great drive.

...but Motor Trend states, "In order to get our hands on a Mustang GT in time to meet the deadline for the April issue of Motor Trend, we had to agree not to do a back-to-back comparison with Korea's new colt. Normally, we would've told Ford to take a hike up the Himalayas. But, in the interest of getting the first test numbers on the new Mustang, we acquiesced. For Ford, it's a shame we did."

and...

"In a different vein, if your most important requirement is a sport coupe that accommodates the spouse, kids, and gear and is still a hoot to scoot, the Mustang GT is the superior option. Its back seat is a smidge tighter, but its dynamics are just plain bigger, easily offsetting any deficiencies in light of the Genesis. The Mustang simply offers more speed, more agility, and more fun. Yet, it's more mature and refined. The Genesis is the car you take to the prom; the Mustang is the one you take to the reunion."

Bottom line? Hyundai did good with the Genesis. It's a LOT better than the Tiburon...for sure. But is Ford scared? Hardly. The Z, the Mustang, and the Genesis are all great cars with their own unique qualities and advantages- and disadvantages.

But at the end of the day, the Mustang is an American icon and the Hyundai is, well, a Hyundai.

XRL · 03-17-09, 09:32

In reading their comparison (which BTW is them going off memory), they say the Mustang "feels bigger". That's awesome, it's always good to "feel" stuff, but personally I'm more interested if it "is" something. Slight difference. And they harp on the Mustang being a muscle car versus a sport compact coupe. WELL DUH. Of course the V6 doesn't sound as muscular as the V8, hell Ford spent a few million getting the engineers to perfect the sound of this new model, that's half of their value proposition. No mention of how the GenCoupe gets better fuel economy, or how the Z beats the Mustang in all the performance aspects... No mention that the GenCoupe offers more features that you can't get on the Mustang, intelligent key/push button start, Brembo brakes, automatic climate control...

Give them time, this is their first "real" attempt at a car. Apparently the GenCoupe has some sort of electrical gremlins (put in by Hyundai -.-) that cut power if you shift it hard. I wonder what sort of times they'll run with that removed.

In any case, I don't think Hyundai really had wanted to compete with the Mustang, I think it was aimed more directly at the G37 market. I think more people will be cross shopping the 2.0T and Mustang V6. If the GenCoupe offered the V8 from the sedan, then maybe they'd have a true Mustang killer.

At the end of the day, a nicer Hyundai is no worse than a nicer Ford, GM, Chrysler, etc. If you're going to talk poorly about it, talk poorly about important things like 1/4 mile times and actual specs, not about how things "feel". And not about false brand image things.

Slick61 · 03-17-09, 10:04

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Originally Posted by XRL

Apparently the GenCoupe has some sort of electrical gremlins (put in by Hyundai -.-) that cut power if you shift it hard. I wonder what sort of times they'll run with that removed.

Edmunds did a follow-up re-test after that incident. Apparently Hyundai is aware of the issue, and is re-flashing the software on all of the coupes, be it already sold, at the dealership, or at the factory.

BigAl3 · 03-17-09, 01:25

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Originally Posted by Lumadar

The Z, the Mustang, and the Genesis are all great cars with their own unique qualities and advantages- and disadvantages.

for sure, and that's for the buyer to decide on what he or she likes. however, the new mustang (there may be one or two others) is just about the only ford i like from the exterior styling standpoint...

GP guy · 03-17-09, 07:15

I give Hyundai credit for trying to better themselves and compete with the market of today. The past cars wasn't all great, and i never owned one. If i was to let go of my Grand Prix? would i consider a Genesis? don't know, but i would look into it more.