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Old 02-05-09, 08:19   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Ford's US sales plunge 40 pct, Toyota down 32 pct

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Get rid of the fu*king worthless unions and drop the price of cars...then maybe the US carmakers could make some money. Does a company really need a trained monkey making $30/hr to buck rivets or install a dash?
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Old 02-07-09, 06:43   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Ford's US sales plunge 40 pct, Toyota down 32 pct

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Get rid of the fu*king worthless unions and drop the price of cars...then maybe the US carmakers could make some money. Does a company really need a trained monkey making $30/hr to buck rivets or install a dash?
When you factor out the retiree payments, the transplants don't really pay that much less, and in some years, pay more than Big 3/UAW wages. I don't see the prices of the bigger transplants, Toyota, Honda & Nissan, being any lower than GM, Ford, & Chrysler. As far as what all of the automakers need to pay, for some one to , as you say, "buck rivets or install a dash", figure that the job is on your feet, all day long, doing the same task over and over again, 45 to 55 times an hour, 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, 48 to 50 weeks a year. Union or no union, it's going to be hard not to have a lot of turnover unless you pay well, and high turnover in heavy manufacturing usually leads to quality problems.
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