Cobalt SS vs. WRX?? Which one to buy - Page 5

askjeffro · 10-28-08, 05:22

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Originally Posted by NCZ13

Yes, the 3 does share chassis with the Euro Ford market. However, thats not to say that mazda=ford. Ford uses mazdas design and technology for their products (i.e sharing chassis) and mazda uses ford parts to keep their costs down.

Actually, the chassis is Ford's design, the engine is Mazda's. The current American Focus is irrelevant and will be discontinued in 2010 to make way for the real Focus currently offered in Europe.

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Because of Fords economic situation, they are actually selling back a marjority of their share back to mazda (they currently hold 33.4 percent) 14% goes back to mazda i believe, while another small percentage goes to various japanese insurance companies. Ford needs mazda to stay afloat IMO.

Has this been confirmed? Last I was told, this is all speculation at this point. I agree that Mazda's partnership is one of the rare ones that has worked in the industry, I wouldn't say that Ford needs Mazda though; one could argue its the other way around, Mazda was a mess until Ford took a majority interest IMO. Ford and Mazda will continue to work closely together regardless of what happens though.

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BTW, I replied to the original poster, as I have a '08 WRX, but the post is pending approval as I included a link and am a new user. In summary, good car but crappy paint quality. I'll wait for that post to get approved rather then repeating myself now.

MASKDMARVL · 10-28-08, 05:24

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Originally Posted by Scottwax

Speaking specifically as a detailer, I'd never own a Mazda3 simply because the carpet is absolute garbage. In fact, garbage is probably too kind a word. Every try vacuuming one owned by someone with a dog, or who goes to the beach? Spending an hour just vacuuming out normal dirt from one is bad enough....

My thoughts exactly. Plus I read today in the motor trend mag that WRX beat out the SS the EVO, and the 3. In all test. Gets my vote is'nt it also 4 WD.

BigJimZ28 · 10-28-08, 05:45

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Originally Posted by MASKDMARVL

Plus I read today in the motor trend mag that WRX beat out the SS the EVO, and the 3. In all test.

missed that one what issue?

F.Y.I. its AWD not 4wd

MASKDMARVL · 10-28-08, 05:58

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Originally Posted by BigJimZ28

missed that one what issue?

F.Y.I. its AWD not 4wd

AWD OK dude. Ill give an up date on the issue tomorrow. It was the issue with the new gallardo lime green. LP5604

rydawg · 10-28-08, 07:03

Todd, buy an Audi S5 with all the money you have, cheapo

Picus · 10-28-08, 07:21

Nevermind the S5, buy a Carrera S.

Got_Leather · 10-28-08, 07:52

WRX end thread.

rydawg · 10-28-08, 07:53

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Originally Posted by Picus

Nevermind the S5, buy a Carrera S.

That's what he should be buying his wife.

Scottwax · 10-28-08, 08:06

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Originally Posted by critical_level2

One thing you need to remember is the STI and the Cobalt SS are 2 different leagues. That would be like comparing a Corvette and a V6 Mustang. 2 entirely different vehicles.

Except the V6 Mustang is a dog compared to the Corvette while the Cobalt SS compared to the WRX is not. They are both relatively inexpensive performance cars and I am sure they appeal to the same audience.

Akoiso · 10-28-08, 08:33

I'd vote for the wrx. Especially the 2009 wrx with increased in power, and ton's of potentials. I'd check out NASIOC.COM, its a subaru forum where you can find out all the good / bad things about the wrx.

From my experience ( I have an 03), the wrx has a glass tranny, so if you have on doing ALOT of "very spirited driving" I would think twice and go straight for the STi or even an EVO. But if you want something thats a DD with good power and great handling and occasional "spirited driving" the wrx is more than enough car.

Bad thing about a subaru besides the tranny (again this was the issue with previous wrx models, not sure how the new ones are) is that people often mistake it for a diesel (at least that what mines get mistaken for)

The SS on the other, is... well ehh. Im biased, as I hate the SS or the neon SRT4, I think these cars are GM's way of trying to get a piece of the pie ( the tuner world) without really thinking about it. I'm look at the styling, its ugly as hell and makes it more ridiculous with the stupid looking wing that simply does not flow the body lines.

But one good note for the SS, a few years back on the speed channel they did a challenge, and took the SS and other "tuner" cars and had "tuners" built them for racing specs, the SS of course was backed my GM while the others car were done with private tune shops. The SS won the challenge, but thats after ever piece of the ecotec motor was re-vamp.

My vote, wrx, its what makes a subaru a subaru.

If that isnt good enough check out this video, This should make you wanna buy a SUBARU

Subaru Impreza by FORMAT67.NET on Vimeo

askjeffro · 10-28-08, 08:53

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Originally Posted by Akoiso

From my experience ( I have an 03), the wrx has a glass tranny, so if you have on doing ALOT of "very spirited driving" I would think twice and go straight for the STi or even an EVO. But if you want something thats a DD with good power and great handling and occasional "spirited driving" the wrx is more than enough car.

Bad thing about a subaru besides the tranny (again this was the issue with previous wrx models, not sure how the new ones are)...

The '08 and '09 received an upgraded tranny through hardened gearing, primarily 1st.

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The SS on the other, is... well ehh. Im biased, as I hate the SS or the neon SRT4, I think these cars are GM's way of trying to get a piece of the pie ( the tuner world) without really thinking about it...

The SRT4 is made by Chrysler, fyi.

TH0001 · 10-29-08, 03:06

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Originally Posted by Akoiso

I'd vote for the wrx. Especially the 2009 wrx with increased in power, and ton's of potentials. I'd check out NASIOC.COM, its a subaru forum where you can find out all the good / bad things about the wrx.

From my experience ( I have an 03), the wrx has a glass tranny, so if you have on doing ALOT of "very spirited driving" I would think twice and go straight for the STi or even an EVO. But if you want something thats a DD with good power and great handling and occasional "spirited driving" the wrx is more than enough car.

Bad thing about a subaru besides the tranny (again this was the issue with previous wrx models, not sure how the new ones are) is that people often mistake it for a diesel (at least that what mines get mistaken for)

The SS on the other, is... well ehh. Im biased, as I hate the SS or the neon SRT4, I think these cars are GM's way of trying to get a piece of the pie ( the tuner world) without really thinking about it. I'm look at the styling, its ugly as hell and makes it more ridiculous with the stupid looking wing that simply does not flow the body lines.

But one good note for the SS, a few years back on the speed channel they did a challenge, and took the SS and other "tuner" cars and had "tuners" built them for racing specs, the SS of course was backed my GM while the others car were done with private tune shops. The SS won the challenge, but thats after ever piece of the ecotec motor was re-vamp.

My vote, wrx, its what makes a subaru a subaru.

If that isnt good enough check out this video, This should make you wanna buy a SUBARU

Subaru Impreza by FORMAT67.NET on Vimeo

I understand what you are saying, but it seems (atleast in 09) that the Cobalt SS is just the better car, regardless of the name on the badge. It is faster, handles better, etc then the WRX.