Issues today on a SUV I've done 4 times before. - Page 2

a.k.a. Patrick · 01-07-07, 07:21

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My arm is so sore!

Well you need a pc at least!

Accumulator · 01-07-07, 11:47

a.k.a. Patrick- I too think the 1Z was the root of the problem. Noting that *I LIKE 1Z POLISHES* the "fillers" they contain are pretty significant and in the case of PP include natural and synthetic waxes. These are pretty durable and IMO what happened was the the subsequent products messed with them, exposing residual marring and also smearing/compromising them to where it might've looked worse than it really was (hologram-wise).

I'd bet that the paint on that one isn't all *that* different from the clear on my '00 Blazer. I found that the PP, used with a PC, wasn't abrasive enough to effect true correction. It *was* great for use after first knocking the marring down with a rotary and the Cyclo and more aggressive products, gave a nice final finish. There's a little knack to not getting hazing with the PP (can't verbalize it...) but it's easier with the Cyclo than with the PC and it might be pad/paint dependant (never tried the Edge pads). Sometimes I simply have to follow up with a milder product and in those cases I usually use a milder 1Z product as it just seems to go better.

Yeah, all that 1Z stuff might end up doing a bit of concealing but after nearly five months nothing's "coming back" on the Blazer so I'm not concerned about it. Ditto on my wife's A8 (last polish step was their WaxPolishSoft) and it's been over 18 months on that one.

a.k.a. Patrick · 01-07-07, 01:11

George, not the 1Z. I guarantee it as I used PS a couple weeks on a Avalon with identical results, but attributed it to user error (Without 1Z). The micromarring was actally more pronounce on the panels that i didnt use the 1Z.
Im definetly going to use the 1Z more and see if I can find room for it in my arsenal/detail.
I dunno guys, Im really baffled as to why this happened.....!

Cleaning Fool · 01-07-07, 01:29

Maybe you didn't work the Polyseal long enough for it to do its job..Just a thought

a.k.a. Patrick · 01-07-07, 04:43

The typical 3 passes, like I do with al my polishes.....Please dont think im arrogant, im just trying to get you guys to help me, so im providing as much info as I can......

Scottwax · 01-07-07, 04:51

I wish I could help you but I have had zero problems with Poli-Seal.

Could it be you used too much and what you saw were streaks from wiping it off and not removing it completely?

gbackus · 01-07-07, 04:56

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Originally Posted by a.k.a. Patrick

George, not the 1Z. I guarantee it as I used PS a couple weeks on a Avalon with identical results, but attributed it to user error (Without 1Z).

I've used poli-seal twice, but each time I've used a spritz of OCW during removal for added protection, but I have found that OCW itself will hide some marring; so next week I'll be using poli-seal on a burgandy Envoy(has typical finnicky GM paint), and I'll remove it without using OCW and let you know what kind of results I get.

Bioman · 01-07-07, 09:22

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Originally Posted by a.k.a. Patrick

Well, Im assuming if Optimum polish has filling ability, so would the Compound. But I could be wrong.
This is only an issue with the PS, as both times Ive used it (on black) i've experienced identical situations...Never with either the Compound or Polish..
Im really perplexed....I'll have to call Optimum early next week.....

Maybe you got a bad batch? I'm scared to use my Opt. PS now. Keep us updated.

Scottwax · 01-07-07, 09:25

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Originally Posted by Bioman

Maybe you got a bad batch? I'm scared to use my Opt. PS now. Keep us updated.

Don't be scared. 9 times out of 10, product problems are operator error.

I've had nothing but spectacular results with Poli-Seal and I've used it on around 75+ cars already, many of them black.

krouchchocolate · 01-07-07, 11:26

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Originally Posted by a.k.a. Patrick

Well you need a pc at least!

i have a pc and it was still tiring =(

a.k.a. Patrick · 01-07-07, 11:29

Yeah, dont not use it from my instance. I was really just looking for some insight. Sometimes you do things so routinely, your not on all your toes. Its an awesome product as all who have used, have atested. I'll figure it out soon enough.
George B, thats great idea! Keep me posted on next week too.
Something "Landcruiser" just emailed me about was the pad. Maybe I should have used a more aggressive pad. I dont recall 100%, what I used the 1st time, with PS, a few weeks ago that left identical results.
I'll keep playing with it on my wifes Expedition, along with that 1Z PP......(side by side).
I was really impressed with the 1Z, but Im hearing it has a lot of fillers.....(I hate fillers).

ebpcivicsi · 01-08-07, 07:53

What speed was the PC on? Did you use anything else *before* the PS on the other cars? Was the pad fresh out of the package? Were you outside? Windy?

New body style Escalade?

I did one of these last weekend and the paint was *very* soft--PS would *not* leave an acceptable finish: