umm... waxing in 3 directions???

[Ng Luder]

i was reading in some other web sites that had their detailing section and read some of their "head guy" 's posts. he didnt seem to know that much stuff compared to what many of us here do.

but anyways, the point of this thread is to ask about somthing i read from him. he said something along the lines of applying wax first vertically, then horizontally, then finally diagonally. thats 3 coats total. obviously removing the haze in between coats. hes referring to carnuba waxes.

this is suppose to bring a very good and deep shine? anyone ever heard of this? to me it seems illogical really. first it has a greater chance of increasing fine line scratches and swirls since you basically rubbed your applicator in almost every possible directions, might as well apply in circular motions. then theres the fact that more than 2 coats really doesnt do that much but just be shoving wax around. and finally if we are very anal about it, applying in different directions like that will have a greater chance of leaving a more uneven layer of wax (to some extent). are my assumptions somewhat correct? anyone ever tried applying in this manner? any input will be great

[StyleTEG]

I agree with you, three directions would have lots of potential to create bad swirling.

Not to mention that adding more coats of wax one after another can't be long enough to have effective layering (if possible). Maybe his reasoning is so that you don't miss a spot?

I wouldn't use this method hehe

[JasonC8301]

I used something similar to this technique with One Grand Blitz wax.

I would apply the wax to the entire car and let haze/frost (directions state this), then remove. Apply a coat of Blitz to a panel (hood, door panel, trunk), and remove without letting it frost. After you finish to that one panel, apply a coat to half the panel and remove immediately. Then wax the other half and remove. Do this until the entire car has been done this way (all panels.)

Does this improve shine? IMHO yes, does it increase protection and add layers NO IMHO.

Hope this helps,
Jason

[Lowejackson]

Jason
This is the old Concours trick to add shine but at the expenses of durability.

Steven

[Ng Luder]

Originally posted by JasonC8301
I used something similar to this technique with One Grand Blitz wax.

I would apply the wax to the entire car and let haze/frost (directions state this), then remove. Apply a coat of Blitz to a panel (hood, door panel, trunk), and remove without letting it frost. After you finish to that one panel, apply a coat to half the panel and remove immediately. Then wax the other half and remove. Do this until the entire car has been done this way (all panels.)

Does this improve shine? IMHO yes, does it increase protection and add layers NO IMHO.

Hope this helps,
Jason

oh thats interesting, ive never heard of that before.. since i dont own a can of blitz. maybe i should try this with my gold class some day

[Bill Lessard]

As usual, Jason is right on! It is an old Concours trick, (I don;t like that expression), lets say method of appliciation, and it's been used for a lot of years.
Then some guys will then spray and wipe it down with cold distilled water. I guess that's to harden the wax so they can buff it to a brighter shine. I don't know if that works, but it's still done at the shows I go to.
I would think that applying it in three different directions would give you complete coverage. But you have to be careful to keep your wax an appliciators clean! WE don't want any micro marring in our show car finish! Enjoy!

[Intel486]

Originally posted by JasonC8301
I would apply the wax to the entire car and let haze/frost (directions state this), then remove. Apply a coat of Blitz to a panel (hood, door panel, trunk), and remove without letting it frost. After you finish to that one panel, apply a coat to half the panel and remove immediately. Then wax the other half and remove. Do this until the entire car has been done this way (all panels.)

What do you mean remove immediately? Like 0 dry time? Wouldn't that be a pain to remove since it isn't dry? It'll end up smearing around...

I guess I'll have to try that one time to see if it works. Can it be done with any wax? Does it have to be paste or can you do it with liquid?

[JasonC8301]

Oh thats what they call it, I knew how this application went but the name slipped my mind.

I have done this with Meguiars #26 paste wax and the OG Blitz. Those are the only two waxes I tried this application with and both were paste. I assume any liquid or paste can be done this way as long as the wax does not contain any cleaners.

I never had it smear on me yet. Your Mileage May Vary.

Jason