Question for Zaino users with dark colored cars that buff with cotton..... - Page 2

cvcaelen · 03-10-02, 11:02

sorry for interrupting,
could you please tell me how many MF's you approx. use for buffing a Z'd car (large SUV)?

Merci beaucoup

William420 · 03-11-02, 12:23

I don't know about others, but I fold my towel in quarters and use 1 side on each panel then flip side (I treat my hood as 2 panels). Takes 2 towles on my cars & SUV!

cvcaelen · 03-11-02, 12:29

Thanks , William,
I'm asking this because Sal recomends large bath-towels,and a bath towel is about 10 times bigger than an MF.

Todd · 03-11-02, 04:59

very soft.Once I picked up some MF's I quit using the charisma's for QDing and only use the MF's.I also noticed maring with these cotton towels that I do not with MF's.

I will still use the charisma's very lightly to remove Z-2 and Z5 but when the coat of Z-6 goes on right after I use a MF to apply and remove the Z-6 and it seems to cut down on noticable maring.I usally let the ZFX combo dry at lease 40 minutes so I feel like it should be dry

I will stop using the cotton all together once I get more quality MF's.The charisma's will be drying towels for my wife's white car.

rd_volvo · 03-11-02, 05:57

I'm getting this matrix effect also under night lights
and in direct sun on my dark green car.
This is my only knock against Zaino.

I wonder if temperature has anything to do with this
as I did my multiple coats on days ranging from
45 to 55. I used both terries and MF's.

Will keep experimenting. Maybe in the spring I'll strip
one half of the trunk lid with 3M SMR and start over
and see what happens.

Or I may try to find a black ceramic tile and test with
it just to see what happens.

DETAILKING · 03-11-02, 07:40

I have not seen this marring. Zaino dries hard and I have never seen what you are describing. I HAVE seen the effects of not letting Zaino dry long enough. The undried polish smears around and mirrors the towels wiping pattern and looks like swirls. This can be removed by going over the car with a damp towel or sometimes Z6ing. At times Z6ing makes it worse if there is a lot of it. A Z7 wash will level it out for sure. The fact that this marring disappears leads me to believe that you are not seeing a physical mar in the paint or zaino layer but something else...........keep us posted. Isn't black fun!?

puterbum · 03-11-02, 10:12

http://www.autopia-carport.com/forum...&threadid=5085

Dude · 03-11-02, 10:37

On a related note, I noticed something REALLY interesting the other day. When I first applied Zaino, I did 3 coats of Z5/ZFX in one day. The applicator I was using had more product in the center than on the edges, so each pass of the applicator would leave white "streak" of Zaino in the center. It looked like there were pinstripes running down my car.

Becasue the sun was going down and I was not careful enough, I didn't do a good job of buffing off one of the coats, and inadvertently left the excess Z pinstripes on- and appleid another coat of ZFX on top of them. In other words, I "sealed in" the stripes of excess Zaino.

I never fixed this, because you could not see the stripes except at a certain angle, and becuase I was just too lazy to strip off the Z and start over.

Last weekend I washed my car in bright sunlight, which allowed me to see every angle. Guess what- the pinstripes were gone! I guess they had crosslinked into the other coats of Z. How awesome! The problem fixed itself without my having to lift a finger!