swirls and fine scratches

iluvspl · 02-27-02, 04:53

I cant stand it i have a 2001 Lexus is 300 and ive done everything i have th pc and have done meguiars swirl remover, pinnacle paint cleaner and apply pinnacle souveran about once or twice a week. You guessed it the car is BLACK, after doing this all i still seem to have very fine swirls and scratches when in the sun light. Someone told me there is nothing i can do that its just gonna be like that in the sun. I dont know if i should believe that or not. i use YoSteve's microfibers and griots garage microfibers and foam bonnets on pc. Someone tell me what im doing wrong if anything.

P.S. Anyone else try usuing zaino for a while than notice it doesnt give the depth or clarity to the paint that pinnacle souveran does? Just curious.

NY detailer · 02-27-02, 05:04

I have detailed cars in the past that had swirls all over. I used 3m swirl remover with the rotary machine, I then used hand glaze, a coat of paint sealant. All work was done by machine. The owner was very happy and is a present customer. The car was black. every now and then i see some swirls(not from me, she takes the veh to a car wash!) I use 3m and they seem to be gone, or at least covered up.

Michael H · 02-27-02, 05:26

Question: the swirls are they on the paint or in the paint? If excessive heat has been applied to paint it can look like there are swirls, but in fact the paint is damaged. No amount of buffing will get them out. But as the car is new and has been looked after hopefully this is not the case.

Andre' · 02-28-02, 12:20

Meguiar's swirl remover will only remove very very fine swirls. You need something more abrasive like 3M's SMR, and if that does not work use something even stronger than that like 3M's FI2, than you can use a paint cleaner like pinnacle or #9 to remove the micro hazing.

puterbum · 02-28-02, 12:24

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Originally posted by Andre'
Meguiar's swirl remover will only remove very very fine swirls. You need something more abrasive like 3M's SMR . . .

If you're speaking of #9 2.0, I disagree completely. It's nearly abrasively equivalent with 3M SMR, technique is all that matters. If you work either one long enough for an application or two you'll remove all light-med swirls and put a sizeable dent in deep ones.

Andre' · 02-28-02, 01:14

#9 2.0 is as abrasive as 3m's SMR? I know that the #9 i have is not very abrasive at all.

And yes technique is everything.

Intel486 · 02-28-02, 03:39

I use meguiars #9. It is easier to use and not get swirls than with 3M SMR. I only use SMR on bad scratches. Use #9 for everything else.

Andre' · 02-28-02, 04:08

Darn now i need to buy more detailing products

Intel do you use #9 2.0 with a rotary, If you do how well does it work?

Intel486 · 02-28-02, 04:43

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Originally posted by Andre'
Darn now i need to buy more detailing products Intel do you use #9 2.0 with a rotary, If you do how well does it work?

Yes, I use it with a Rotary. I have a Makita 9227C. I use a white finishing pad from Milwaukee. I tried it with a black finishing pad from Lake Country Mfg. but it left swirls. I'm going to try the yellow cutting pads from them to see if the black one just isn't abrasive enough to break down the abrasives.

#9 works awesome. The results I got are the same as the results with 3m SMR but, from my experience, #9 was easier to get a swirl free finish with.