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08-26-06, 04:11
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paradigm is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,037 | it has nothing to do with affordability or cost per application...there is a right way...then there are other ways that "work", but take longer, etc. if you slather any product on you are just wasting your own personal time cleaning it off...and if the person values their own time then they don't want to sit and buff off product all day when they could be doing something productive. i could care less how much the car costs...it's all about common sense.
unless you buy an entire Zaino kit, it doesn't cost any more than some of the other polymers... | |
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08-26-06, 04:30
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ZaneO is offline
Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Amarillo, Texas Posts: 4,092 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Harry Houdini Argue?
I am not arguing but chill dude, if you don't want to answer please do NOT.
Anyone else advice is appreciated. | I offered quality advice and said apply less - you said more is better. Like I said, good luck. 
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08-26-06, 05:47
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Harry Houdini is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 330 | ZaneO
Well I was not saying It is better to apply more
but it is done and apllied "2 coats of Z-5"
oh and good luck to you 2...
I just found something really bad out,
My Z-5 dosen't have a Pro in it!!!
This is extermly wired as I just ordered the full package for Zaino a month or so ago
Z-2 is a Pro Z-5 is not!
I am applying 2 coats right now of Z-2 Pro on the car "just did the first coat and
waiting for it to dry" as will as the wheels after collintie last night.
Is the regular Z-5 diffrent than the pro verison? in applecation or else?
Should I redo the hall process althought Z-5 was ZFXed?
I already did the first 2 coats of Z-5 last night should I order the new Z-5 pro
or with the application I am doing right now of Z-2 Pro ZFXed X2 is enough? | |
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08-26-06, 07:52
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Harry Houdini is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 330 | I did a search and couldn't find anything regarding the Z-5 and the Z-5 Pro
differences, can some one tell me if I need to get the PRO or am I fine with
2 coats of Z-5 and 1 coat of Z-2 PRO?
After the Z-2 I did a pass with Z-6 and Z-8 should this hold up fine for 6 months
and using Z-8 after each wash of the car?
Thanks! | |
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08-26-06, 07:53
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gbogh3 is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 21 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Harry Houdini More is better anyways, I like to see a thick coat of wax on the car to make
sure because the lightning in the garage was not that great,
I also did 2 coats with it and had a quarter of the product lift
Statman
I will do a wipe right now with Z-6 Followed buy Z-8,
I will also apply a coat of Z-5 and on top of it a coat of Z-2.
Thanks everyone | ZaneO is absolutely right. I was wondering if someone was going to mention this when you said you added 10 drops of ZFX! Zaino is designed to be put on EXTERMELY thin, lucky for you, you have a slightly darker color and can see it!
Do you have instructions from the Zaino guy you bought this from? If not I would be more than happy to PM you with them or post them here when you are using ZFX. By the time you finishing putting 1 coat on the car, the place you started will be dry and you can remove it. There is no reason to wait 40 mins.
My question for the thread:
It seems the recomedation seems to be remove the wax with a dampen MF towel with Z6 or Z8, does this count for the coat of Z6/Z8 that is recommended to put on between coats? And can I spray Z6 or Z8 directly on the paint, or should I put it on a cloth first.
AND what does PC stand for in other posts?
Thanks, I'm new to some of this. | |
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08-26-06, 07:57
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gbogh3 is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 21 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Harry Houdini I did a search and couldn't find anything regarding the Z-5 and the Z-5 Pro
differences, can some one tell me if I need to get the PRO or am I fine with
2 coats of Z-5 and 1 coat of Z-2 PRO?
After the Z-2 I did a pass with Z-6 and Z-8 should this hold up fine for 6 months
and using Z-8 after each wash of the car?
Thanks! | Z-2 is a polish when you are not worry about swirls
Z-5 is for hiding swirls
hope that helps.
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08-26-06, 08:08
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squidd99 is offline
Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 68 | There is not a lot of difference between Z5 Pro and the older (maybe 6 or 9 months) Z5. If that's what you have, use it up. Z5 is not made any more. Z5 Pro is Z5, version 2.0.
You spray the z6 or z8 directly onto the car and wipe it off immediately with a MF towel. An entire car takes about 2 minutes.
PC stands for Porter Cable, a reference to the Porter Cable random orbit polisher, used to apply polishes; its random action prevents the swirls caused by rotary polishers that spin the disc (pad) in a circular pattern. These are much more intense and it is easier to damage the paint through the excessive abrasion and extra heat that these machines generate. They require practice and are used by pros for the most part.
And it's "different from," not "different than." | |
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08-26-06, 08:12
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Harry Houdini is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 330 | LOL
We are way past those steps,
My question is still the same
I just found something really bad out,
My Z-5 dosen't have a Pro in it!!!
This is extermly wired as I just ordered the full package for Zaino a month or so ago
Z-2 is a Pro Z-5 is not!
I am applying 1 coats right now of Z-2 Pro on the car "finished doing
Z-5 X2 last night" as will as the wheels after collintie last night.
Is the regular Z-5 diffrent than the pro verison? in applecation or else?
Should I redo the hall process althought Z-5 was ZFXed?
I already did the first 2 coats of Z-5 last night should I order the new Z-5 pro;
or with the application I am doing right now of Z-2 Pro ZFXed X1 is going to be enough? | |
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08-26-06, 08:18
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wannafbody is offline
Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 5,666 | no need to redo the Z5. Z5 applies in the same manner as Z5pro. Z5 may take slightly longer to dry. You can apply Zaino as thick as you like but be warned too thick of an application will be difficult to remove and takes longer to dry. Thin is better. You can apply as many layers of each as you preferr.
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08-26-06, 09:40
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Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Boulder & Santa Monica Posts: 107 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Harry Houdini LOL
We are way past those steps,
My question is still the same
I just found something really bad out,
My Z-5 dosen't have a Pro in it!!!
This is extermly wired as I just ordered the full package for Zaino a month or so ago
Z-2 is a Pro Z-5 is not!
I am applying 1 coats right now of Z-2 Pro on the car "finished doing
Z-5 X2 last night" as will as the wheels after collintie last night.
Is the regular Z-5 diffrent than the pro verison? in applecation or else?
Should I redo the hall process althought Z-5 was ZFXed?
I already did the first 2 coats of Z-5 last night should I order the new Z-5 pro;
or with the application I am doing right now of Z-2 Pro ZFXed X1 is going to be enough? | Harry, If you bought the Z5 from the Zaino store within the last couple of months (is it purple?) then it is Z5pro (they were using up the old bottles). Either way it is not bad. I think the Z5Pro is better...very close to Z2Pro...you do not have to redo anything...relax. The Z2Pro over the Z5 (or Z5Pro) is fine! Now about those pics...  | |
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08-26-06, 10:20
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Harry Houdini is offline
Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 330 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Statman Harry, If you bought the Z5 from the Zaino store within the last couple of months (is it purple?) then it is Z5pro (they were using up the old bottles). Either way it is not bad. I think the Z5Pro is better...very close to Z2Pro...you do not have to redo anything...relax. The Z2Pro over the Z5 (or Z5Pro) is fine! Now about those pics...  | Haha thanks guys wannafbody & Statman
Statman
The color of Z-5 is purple! so I guess they just wanted to use up the old
bottels!
the pictures are coming tomorrow in day time
I did remove the Z-2pro with Z-6 mist.
I also did a pass with Z-8!
Those pictures are gonna be sweet@! | |
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08-26-06, 11:34
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Scottwax is online now Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 25,616 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by Harry Houdini Argue?
I am not arguing but chill dude, if you don't want to answer please do NOT.
Anyone else advice is appreciated. | He gave you good advice. | |
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